关于Diller Scofidio和Renfro的作品 On the work of Diller Scofidio and Renfro
我们首先要讲Charles Renfro we'll begin by Charles Renfro
我要向你们介绍 也要感谢Charles and I want to both introduce as well as thank Charles
飞过大半个国家 for flying across the country
大方答应代替今晚无法出席的 and so graciously stepping in on behalf of Liz Diller
Liz Diller who is unable to join us this evening.
今晚的演讲是与SFMOMA展览开幕 This evening's lecture is a special event in conjunction
相结合的一个特别盛事 with the opening of the SFMOMA exhibition
展览题目是 酒的现代时 我也要 when wine became modern and I'd also like to
谢谢Douglas Benham 他是CCA的教授 thank Douglas Benham a professor at CCA
也是AND论坛的主席 and also a chair of the AND forum
也欢迎座下来自AND论坛和SFMOMA and welcome to all of you from the AND forum
的所有人 from SFMOMA
还要谢谢Henry Urbach 他是SFMOMA的 and also Henry Urbach chair for architecture and designing
建筑和设计部主席 at the SFMOMA for helping to
是他促成了今晚的盛事 make this event possible tonight.
Charles Renfro在1997年 Charles Renfro joined the studio of
加入了Diller和Scofidio工作室 Diller and Scofidio in 1997
在2004年成为合伙人 and became a partner in 2004
公司的名字就改成了 when the firm's name was changed to
Diller Scofidio和Renfro Diller, Scofidio and Renfro.
位于纽约市的该公司是个独一无二的 The firm located in New York City is a unique
跨学科工作室 interdisciplinary studio
有着把建筑 表演和视觉艺术 that has a history of integrating architecture
整合到一起的历史 with the performing and visual arts.
该工作室一直坚持挑战和扩展 Having continuously challenged and expanded
传统建筑行业的边界 the edges of the traditional architectural practice,
该工作室早年以其激进的 the studio was known earlier on
行动性态度而为人所知 这在他们的 for its radical performative posture as evident
一些项目 如现代艺术博物馆委托的 in projects such as parasite commissioned for
1989年的 "寄生" the museum of modern art in 1989,
明尼苏达州Walker艺术中心的 tourism suitcase studies at the walker art center
旅行箱研究 和1993年的"软销售" in Minneapolis and Soft Sell in 1993
里面是一双涂了红唇膏的大嘴唇 which featured a pair of oversized red lipstick lips
投射到纽约市的Rialto剧院 projected onto the glass surface of
的玻璃外表面 New York City's Rialto Theatre
这双嘴唇会对路过的人说诸如 and the lips uttered phrases such as
"想要买新的生活方式吗" 的话 "Want to buy a new lifestyle" to people that walk by
这些 还有其他如"熨坏了" These and other works such as Bad Press
是通过熨坏了的男士衬衫的折纸 which through the origami of misironed man shirts
来为女性劳作的单调性做注脚 presented a commentary of the monotony of women's work
还有他们在采用这种重复性家务 and the creativity inherent
的低效率时的创造性 in exploiting the inefficiencies of repetitive household work.
即把建筑定位于介于 Locating architecture somewhere between
装置艺术和表演之间 installation art and performance,
将工艺品与概念性事件糅合 conflating artifacts with highly conceptual events
更关注艺术讲世界呈现得更清楚的效力 that focus more on the potency of the architectural
而不是关注 in making world's evident than
典型建筑的生产 on the production of typical buildings.
他们的设计一直遵循 Theirs had always been a practice of
陌生化原则 将似乎是隐形的 defamiliarization with the denaturalizing of
社会结构去自然化 seemingly invisible social structures
日常的行为和物体通过精心安排的 and everyday acts and objects get played out
建筑表现艺术被展示出来 with a highly orchestrated architectural display.
他们的工作重心从行动性建筑 The shift in their work from performative architecture
例如布鲁大厦的氛围设计 such as the atmosphere at Blur Building
这是为2002年瑞士世博会设计的 created for the Swiss expo of 2002,
它是个完全由机械产生的烟雾 a building that was constructed entirely
所构筑的建筑物 他们的工作重心 of mechanically produced fog to architectures
转到了表演艺术建筑上来 for performance and arts
例如林肯表演艺术中心之类的 as the redevelopment of things like the Lincoln center
再发展 for the performing arts,
于2006年完工的波士顿当代艺术院 Boston's institute of contemporary art completed in 2006.
他们邀请设计工作室来竞争设计 They invited competition entry for
"目光"艺术科技博物馆 the Eyebeam museum of art and technology and then
最近的委托包括布朗大学的 more recent commissions for the creative art centre
创造艺术中心 for Brown University,
洛杉矶的布罗德艺术博物馆 the Broad art museum in Los Angeles
当然还有伯克利的新艺术馆 and of course the new Berkeley art museum
就在湾区这里 here in the bay area.
这些作品都体现了展品安排的专业化和具体化 Suggest perhaps a thematic continuity in their practice
而导致设计也要发生很大改变时 in one that is highly transformed
他们设计的 when the orchestration of display gets specialized and
主题连贯性 materialized in more prominent practices of building.
他们设计中不管是什么规模或模式的建筑设计 What is extremely consistent in their work however,
有一个一以贯之的主题是 across all scales and modes of architectural performance
他们的审慎与准确性 is the exquisite care and precision,
他们反讽性的天才与创新能力 the ironic intelligence and the innovation
这点在他们的设计中占主导地位 that is absolutely pervasive in their work.
Diller Scofidio和Renfro得到了 Diller, Scofidio and Renfro have received
许多知名大奖 numerous prestigious awards
包括AIA主席奖 including the AIA President's Award
还有荣誉奖章 and Medal of Honor,
史密森协会的全国设计大奖 the National Design Award from Smithsonian
还有布朗诺奖 and the Brunner Prize
是美国艺术和文学学会颁的 from the American Academy of Arts and Letters.
我们今天的演讲人是Charles Renfro Our lecturer this evening Charles Renfro
他从莱斯大学获得 received his professional architecture degree
专业建筑学学士学位 from Rice University,
从哥伦比亚大学获得 his Masters degree in advanced architectural design
高级建筑设计的硕士学位 from Columbia University
现在任帕森新设计学院的 and is currently a visiting professor
访问教授 at Parson's New School for Design.
Charles能来跟我们做演讲 I am thrilled that Charles was able to
我很激动 be with us this evening.
请和我一起欢迎Charles Renfro Please join me in welcoming Charles Renfro.
掌声 (Clapping)
谢谢 谢谢 算了 Thank you! Thank you! Uhm never mind,
我本来是要把我的道具放那的 I was going to put my prop up here,
我们都很高兴能来到这 I mean we are super thrilled to be here,
我们到此是为了参加很多 there are many occasions.
重要的场合 其中之一就是 For our visit here one of which is the opening
酒的设计 of the design of wine at,
或者酒的现代时 就在旧金山现代艺术博物馆 or how wine became modern at San Francisco MOMA
于今天开幕 我们都很激动 which is opening tomorrow, we're very excited about that,
它能给我们很多机会来 it gives us a lot of opportunities
吸收新东西 to imbibe and have that become,
这是我们的专业要求之一 that's part of our professional requirement
很令人激动 which is very exciting and it feels,
它让我们能立足于湾区 it grounds us to the bay area somehow.
我不是Elizabeth Diller I am not Elizabeth Diller,
我知道我们有些共同之处 I know that we have similarities
我想确保你们不要搞混了 and I want to make sure you aren't confused,
我其实是Charles Renfro 这是几年前拍的 I'm actually me Charles Renfro, that's a few years ago.
我是Diller Scofidio和Renfro I make up one of the 3 partners of
的三个合伙人之一 Diller, Scofidio and Renfro
你们刚刚也听说了 and as you just heard
我们很多设计都是遵循一个原则 a lot of our practice is founded on one simple act
就是观看 and that is the act of looking.
这个理念贯穿了我们的设计 That's informed a lot of our work,
不管是像设计博物馆这样的文化机构内部 both inside cultural institutions like museums
或者越来越多地 but now more are increasingly,
这个理念贯穿了我们设计 it's informing the way that we actually
这些机构本身 make the institutions themselves
因为我们的工作正从设计内容物 as our practice is shifting from making things
过渡到设计容器本身 that are contained to making the containers themselves.
观看对于我们而言不仅仅是观察力问题 Looking for us is not simply about vision,
不仅仅是看到 it's not simply about seeing
而是主动去观看并且了解 it's about looking and understanding
你所看的是什么 what you are looking at.
我们从日常生活汲取灵感 We take inspiration in everyday
我们的工作包括很多层面 and our practice spans many-many scales
例如 "从恶行到美德" from vice and virtue
这是一套饮水杯 你们可以看到 which is a set of drinking glasses you see here
是关于饮水杯的美德问题 that deal with the problem of virtue,
以及美德里所包含的 of a water glass and sort of inherent,
恶行问题 sort of vice that's embedded in a virtue
每一个这样的杯子都有其功能 and each of these glasses performs a function
他们都合并或者模糊了 that sort of merges and blurs at the distinction
美德与恶行的界限 between the vice and virtue.
实际上底部的这一个 In fact the one on that bottom
当你把这个高脚杯往下推时 right as you push the goblet down
它把美德扩散到水里 it emits the virtue right into the water,
把这两个东西混在一起了 and really confusing the two.
我们设计一些能生产的东西 We've made objects for production
这是我们给思华罗维奇水晶 this is a light fixture that we developed
设计的灯光装置 with Swarovski Crystals.
这个有一个球和两个球的版本 This comes in, in one lobe or two,
我更喜欢两个球的版本 I prefer the two lobe version.
我们设计的方式是 The way this works is that we,
让你能够通过称磅来购买水晶 you are able to purchase the crystals by the pound,
就像你钓鱼时那样 它们被收集在网里 like you would fish, they are collected up in these nets
灯被放到水晶里 and there's you know lights inserted into
让它们闪闪发亮 the crystals making a glow.
如果感兴趣你们可以购买 You can purchase this if you are interested.
我们设计的另一个极端是城市规划 Our work has gone to the other extreme of urban planning
比如这个BAM的基本规划项目 both in this project of the BAM master plan
就是布鲁克林音乐学院的基本规划 Brooklyn Academy of Music master plan.
它要处理的是Ramcole House It would deal with Ramcole House
但是并不是完全照计划执行 and it was not exactly executed to
还有我们最近在林肯中心刚完成的项目 our recently completed work up at Lincoln Center
实际上是一个基本规划 which in fact was a master plan
涉及到整个地方的重新发展 that involved a redevelopment of the entire campus.
让人难以执行 因为我们原先得到的工作是 Unbelievably so because we won the job
媒体公共项目 as sort of a media public work project
只关注65街 that was going to be focused solely on 65th street
也就是你们现在看到的这条街 which is the street that you see here
然后一直扩展再扩展 成为了 and it expand and expanded into a new kind,
对林肯中心的增补 new additions to Lincoln Center
例如你们这看到的茱莉亚学院 such as the Juliard School you see here,
林肯中心一个新的独立餐馆 a new free standing restaurant at Lincoln
几周前才刚开业 which just opened a few weeks ago,
完全整修过的罗伯森广场 a completely renovated Robertson plaza
就是这个中心的标志性建筑 which is sort of like the iconic of the center
我们把所有东西都拆下来 where we stripped everything away
然后放回去时已经完全重修重整过了 and put it all back refreshed and renewed
它包括了增补 媒体增补 and it included additions, media additions
比如这里的台阶 such as on the steps here
有LED横幅 which have LED banners
不断滚动 作为这个中心的 which scroll across and operate as a new,
一个新的标志物 sort of a new mark key for the center.
中心之前没有过前门 你们在背景里 It never really had a front door and the new fountain
看见的喷泉 you see in the background
被整修过 加了灯光 which has been spritzed and sprutzed and lightened
从广场表面流溢出来 I mean outflows off of the plaza surface.
你们这看见的华盖 And then the canopy that you see
在幻灯片右手边的这个 in the right hand side of the slide
被一个单独的柱子支撑着 which is supported on a single column
是一个85英尺长的玻璃华盖 and is an 85 long glass member or glass canopy
被一个单独的分叉柱子支撑着 on a single bifurcated column.
我们有两个项目最近设计完 还在施工 Two are also recently completed and still under construction
一个是纽约的High Line公园 actually are a park for New York called the High Line
建在一个旧的废弃铁路上 that was constructed on top of an old abandoned railroad
过去曾用于给纽约输送食物 that was used to deliver food to the city of New York.
这是一张Joel Stenfeld拍的照片 This is a photograph taken by Joel Stenfeld
它是作为给政府做 as propaganda really to try to sell
宣传而被使用的 the dually owned administration,
前任市长决定要拯救这条路线 the former mayoral administration to save the line
因为这条路线风景秀丽 because the line was inherently beautiful
发展成为了 and had developed actually you know
纽约市内最生态原始的 very ironically one of the most ecologically native
线路之一 sort of landscapes in New York city,
就是你看到的这样 这只是偶然 that's what you see here, this is just accidental.
我们对它的改造是 And then our transformation of that,
把那个高于城市电网30英尺的路线 that line elevated 30 feet above the city grid
改造为一个公共空间 试图保持 into a public space that tried to maintain
尽可能多的原来的特色 as much of the character as was existing
就跟这条高速路线在我们改造前的 in the accidentally overgrown ruin
那片偶然形成的长满杂草的废墟一样 that the High Line was before we touched it.
我们设计的很大一部分是关于观看的 Again much of our work is about looking
这里有高速路线的一段 here with there was a large section of the High Line
我们切掉了 是和第十大道相连的 that we cut away that was bridging 10th Avenue
我们还制作了小孩子称作 and we made what I heard a little kid
汽车电视的东西 refer to as the Car TV,
就是个剧院一样的东西 sort of theater that descends
落在高速线路的表面 out of the surface of the High Line
从婚姻到戏剧到电视节目 and everything from marriages to plays to TV shows
都用汽车电视拍摄下来 have been filmed in the car TV
大家可以坐在那看车 and souls also sit there and look at the cars.
然后我们的设计又进入了剧院和舞蹈的领域 Then our work has gone into areas of theater and dance.
这是一出叫倒时差的剧 This is a still from a play called Jetlag
刚刚在新泽西州的蒙特克莱尔又上演了 which was just resurrected in Montclair, New Jersey.
这是我们和建筑商协会一起 This is a story that we co-developed
制作的故事 两个现代生活的真实故事 with the Builders Association about 2 true stories
关于科技是如何干预 of some modern day life and the way technology
我们的生活的 intercepts with our worlds these days.
两个故事都是真实的 Both of these stories were true
而两个又都是悲剧性的 and both of them were tragic
两个故事的主人公最后都死了 and eventually the protagonist in each story died
因为 或者作为想要用某个方式 because of, or as a part of the act of mediating
调停他们生活的一个部分 their lives in some way.
让我们再想想观看这回事 So just thinking about looking a little bit more
我要开始进入正题 I'm going to start the talk
因为我们一直都还没进入正题 because it hasn't really started yet.
我要用这个装设来开始本次演讲 I'm going to start the talk with this installation
这是由Liz和Rick完成的 that was done by Liz and Rick,
是在我加入工作室之前 this is before I joined this studio
所以我就随便乱说 so I'm going to just bullshit
让大家听起来似乎我做过这个项目似的 and make it sound like I worked on the project.
主题 它主题是 The thematic, the thematic that it embodies
我们一直很感兴趣的 is something we're still very-very interested in
我之前也说过 这里只有几张幻灯片 as I said before and there's just a few slides here
但我认为我们是第一批有项目工作室的 but I think we were the first architects
建筑师 to be given the project room,
这是1989年在现代艺术博物馆 this is in 1989 at MOMA and the the,
哦 它自己动了 oh it's going by itself, okay.
这个节目的内容 And the content of the show was developed
实际上就是博物馆本身 or was in fact the museum itself
在某种意义上 这个项目是关于观看的 and in a way this project is about looking
也就是观看观看这个行为 it's looking at looking.
我们三 Liz Rick和在博物馆里 We installed series of, we, they Liz and Rick
装设了一系列的摄像头 installed series of cameras throughout that museum
使用当下的监视技术 sort of using current surveillance technologies
然后这些影像在这个房间里被重现 and those images were re-presented in this room
用显示屏回放给观众看 on these monitors playing back to the audience
参观者就成了对这类刺激 the visitors being the unsuspecting subjects of
无所察觉的对象 the sort of provocations, prodding and musing of the piece,
你们看见的是四个显示屏 so what you're seeing here are the 4 monitors
展示了现代艺术博物馆的各个入口 that show the various entrances of the MOMA.
实际上影像之一就是 So in fact and that's what one of the images was
旋转门上安装的一个摄像头 a camera right in the top part of the revolving door
把去博物馆这个行为 that turned the museum
纳入了博物馆本身 going into the museum piece itself.
这个概念贯穿了 And this concept is something
我们的很多设计 that really informs a lot of our work
我接着讲你们就会看到 and I think you'll see that as we continue.
接下来讲讲博物馆 So moving on to a next thought about museums
以及博物馆墙 我们的设计还是有个过渡 and the museum wall and again a sort of transition
从设计博物馆墙内的东西 of our practice from working inside the museum wall
即被围在墙内的展览 in the contained form of exhibitions
到设计墙本身 to the actual wall itself.
我们在2002年在惠特尼有个展会的机会 We were given a show at the Whitney in 2002
作为展会的一部分我们制作了一个东西 and as part of the show we developed a piece
给惠特尼 叫做Muriel 就是这个 with the Whitney called Muriel and this is it,
这是对那个作品的阐释 设计的观念是 a depiction of that piece and the idea was that
我们要把构成展会房间的 we would basically tear apart the temporary walls
临时墙给拆了 that form the rooms of the show
用这个机器钻 with this robotic drill
这个机器钻会一直烦人地 which would constantly and annoyingly
绕着整个展区走 circulate around the entire exhibition area
在三个月展会期间不停地钻洞 drilling holes throughout the 3 month tenure of the show.
最终这样路径式的标记会让墙面有 Eventually path-marking the wall to
难以置信的维度 sort of unbelievable dimensions,
哦 这个就是一点点题外话 oh that's, this is just a little aside parenthesis.
我们和Honeybee Robotics合作 We worked with Honeybee Robotics
就是开发了火星漫游钻机的公司 who is the company that develop the Mars Roving Driller
它以意大利和纽约为基地 that's, amazingly based in little Italy and New York
这就是内部的样子 我们都很激动 and here's what the insides look, we're only so excited,
就像是给成人玩的一套玩具一样 it's like an (eractor set) for adults you know.
就像是 哇 我们居然能做这样的东西 It's like wow, we were able to do this crazy thing
它能钻它想要钻的一切东西 and it just sort of gleefully drilled wherever it wanted
钻通墙上印的文本 through the wall text
最后整个墙开始解体 and eventually the wall started to disintegrate
这是个关于容器和内容物 and it's a metaphor about the breaking down
解体的隐喻 of the container and the contained
但也是关于净化和图像的 but it's also purified and spectacle.
展会内部有一个特别的地方 Within the show itself is a very special spot
曾经挂过杜尚的话 where that Duchamp painting once hung at the MOMA,
那间办公室被临时官员接手了 that office was taken over by temporary officers
当现代艺术馆关门整修时 when MOMA shut down and renovated.
所以我们想要做一个很大胆的事情 And so our, we wanted to do this sort of cheeky thing
我们把现代艺术馆的一部分墙卸了下来 so we dislocated a part of the wall at MOMA.
你们在这可以看见这幅油画的准确尺寸 You can see here the exact size of that painting
这幅画已经很久都没在 which had long since ceased from existing
那个位置了 但是我们这把这面墙 in that location but here we are taking the wall,
这面上了钉的石膏墙拿下来 that gypsum wall board that's on studs off of this,
小心拿出展览馆 out of this gallery very carefully,
把它升高拿出来 这段视频又臭又长 lifting it out and oh this becomes very long and tedious
我需要休息一下 I'm going to take a little break.
哦又自己动了 就是这个 Wow this is happening, anyway so this is,
这是我的酒 好的 这是 this is what, this is my wine, okay this is,
谢谢你David 谢谢你建议我 thank you David for suggesting this I,
喝喝酒休息一下 this little wine break.
好吧 所以这幅画 Anyway so and what happened is the piece
从现代艺术博物馆被重安装进了惠特尼 from MOMA got reinserted into the Whitney
就是在纽约的竞争者 the competitor in New York
我们给钻机编了程 让它表现有所不同 and we did indeed program the drill to behave differently
让它放弃了原来不规律的行为 to abandon its abnormal erratic behavior
当钻机钻到墙的薄弱点时 when it reaches this rarified point of wall
它就好好表现 在网格里钻 and it behaves, it drills in a grid
因为这毕竟是现代艺术博物馆 because it's the MOMA after all
我们需要 and one needs to
所以三个月的展期我们 so and this happened for the entire length
都是这么做的 of the exhibit 3months
我们要研发一种收集灰尘的机器 we had to develop a dust collection machine
作为这个钻机仪器的一部分 as part of this drilling apparatus
你们不会知道它在转角等地方 and it didn't warn you of those little limping sounds
会发出小小的声音 as it was rounding corners etcetera.
我本来要关掉这个的 但是我放了句妙语在这 I would turn this off but there is sort of a punch line
所以我得等等 so I'd kind of have to wait.
看那个小小的刻痕 But see that little notch there
我们得改变墙 we had to really alter the walls
来让机器能四处转悠 to let the machine roll around.
所以我们又回到了新的现代艺术博物馆 So here we are back in the new MOMA
这现在已经是永久展品的一部分了 and this is now a part of the permanent collection
在纽约 at the New York
我希望没把这和旧金山现代艺术博物馆混了 (I hope I'm not to confuse it with the SFMOMA)
这就是那片被挂上了Muriel的杜尚墙 and it is the Duchamps wall that has been murieled
还有惠特尼的部分 已还回现代艺术博物馆 and part of the Whitney that's now been returned back
被当成永久墙装上去了 to the MOMA and reinstalled as permanent wall, okay.
你们可以看到这里 You can see it here, sort of,
漆的白颜色有点不同 it was painted a different color white
但除此之外 它是不可描述的 but other than that it was indescribable
和墙体的剩下的部分能区别开来 and distinguishable from the rest of the wall,
它正在钻孔 its drilling and screed.
那次展会里还有另外一个展览仪器 Within that show was another exhibition apparatus
我想我们是为了 I guess that we developed for
Rofel Baum Sean De Carteret基金会研发的 Rofel Baum Sean De Carteret foundation
原先Rof有一套很好的玩具藏品 originally Rof has an amazing collection of toy
日本机器人 Japanese robots
他想要想想怎么来摆设它们 and he wanted to think about how to display them
用一种有趣的方式 in a really interesting way
他就找了我们来想一个 and he approached us to kind of conceive
博物馆展览的方式 of a museum exhibition for them
我们决定做一个 and what we decided to do was to make sort of
现代主义的办公室空间 a distepic modernist office floor
所有的机器人 where all of the robots
被当成是心怀不满的办公室员工 were in fact disgruntled office workers.
他们被迫要一整天 They were forced to parade themselves around
在传输带上展示自己 all day on conveyer belts.
到处都有小的照相机 Little cameras everywhere took,
不断地在给它们拍照片 were constantly taking pictures of them
好像它们在嗑药还是什么的 like they were getting drug cast or whatever
每天它们都成了一套套照相机的影像 and once a day they were sets of camera image.
它们每天都要被逼进X光 Once a day they would be forced to
机器里被拍一次照 go into an x-ray machine,
这就是它们X光的样子 that's sort of what they look like.
很好玩 That was fun.
然后 它引领我们 And then, it's sort of leading up to and actually
或者说做了"酒的现代时"的先驱 sort of the precursor for the how wine became modern
它让我们了解到我们要如何与旧金山MOMA打交道 showed we could have dealt with the San Francisco MOMA
秘诀就是要向他们展示我们为美国航线 is to show that we developed for the Canadian
还有为加拿大建筑设计的东西 Architecture for the American line.
我再说一次 我的意思不是 And here again I mean this is you know
挑一点出来讲 但是观看这个概念很重要 not to find a point on but the concept of looking
试图揭示隐藏的含义 and really trying to uncover the layer
或者隐藏的真相 the hidden meanings or hidden truth
或者至少揭示出 or at least some of the wildnesses
平常的生活下面狂野的因素 that are beneath our quotidian life,
这里的草品看起来好像只是 here the lawn which is seemingly just a sample
草地的九层表面的一个样本 of the nine surface of the grass
也许是自然的 也许不是 maybe natural or maybe not.
我们开始研究这个话题时 As we started researching this topic
很明显地看到 草地很能代表 it just became clear that the lawn embodied
美国社会 科技 so much about American society, about technology,
控制 权力 美 共同性 about control, power, beauty, collectivity
它令人无法抵抗 我们一整个展览馆 that it was irresistible in fact we have a whole gallery
都用来展示这个草地的法则 that was dedicated to the law of grass
关于草地制定了很多法则 and there are, there were many sort of laws
闹上了法庭 that were brought to court
因为有人让草长得太长了 because people had their grass too long
邻居们就说 and then you know neighbors that said
长过五英尺你就得割掉 after 5 inches you have to cut it,
这就是有邻里的限制 that's indeed the restriction of the neighborhood.
这很有意思 So it was really interesting you know
我们有一系列的房间 and we had a you know a series of rooms
是和艺术家一起设计的 这一个 that were co-developed with artists, this one,
这些是分界线的两眼立体视觉图像 these were binocular stereoscopic images of the line,
就是分隔了房产的那条线 of the dividing line between properties
还有这个分隔线是如何 and how the line gave away as much
透露了房子和房子主人的特质的 about the owner as did the house.
不好意思 Excuse me!
然后我们调查了 And then we are looking into
所有草地上视野范围内的物体 all of the peripheral artifacts realm lawn
包括这些运动鞋 including these athletic shoes
每一个都有一个特别的方式 each of which had developed a very particular way
来用不同的钉子钉住草地 to tack the lawn with different cleats etcetera
我们用鞋来弄成一个桌子 and we used shoes to make a table.
现在我们转换一下话题 Now the sort of shifting topics,
这栋布勒大厦代表了我们 the Blur building really represents the project
跨越了两个领域的设计 that sort of spans the 2 worlds that we work in
我想说其实这两个世界并不是泾渭分明 and I'd say that the 2 worlds really are not separated
而是仅仅在表面看起来是分离的 but sort of on the surface they look to be separated.
这个项目是为了瑞士2002年世博会设计的 This project was developed for the Swiss Expo 2002.
是一次竞赛 并不是世界性的集会 It was a competition and it was not a world's fair
但是或多或少都是参照了世界性机会来做的 but it was more or less modeled after a world's fair.
我们的基本想法是要回归到视觉本身 And our basic idea was to give back to the sight,
视觉本身 就是从湖水中 the sight itself, so essentially make a cloud
制作出一朵云 这朵云被推挤着 out of the lake water that would be pushed,
推到三万三千英尺的高压雾喷嘴上 soaked up and pushed to 33,000 high pressure fog nozzles
好像它要去碰另外一朵云一样 as if it actually meets another cloud,
这是效果图 but that's what they got.
这是一次行动 And that is, is it an operation,
是一栋大厦 it's, it is a building
这就是为什么 把它当成一个 and this is why it's so interesting to think about it
跨界作品来看很有意思 as spanning some of our work.
这是一栋建筑 但是却是无形的 It's a building but its shapeless you know,
无形 无边 formless, edgeless,
不断变幻 it kept changing
让那些负责世博会的官员们感到很惊愕 and was much to the consternation of the officials
因为雾的尾部 that ran the expo because the tail used,
延伸到了世博公园的其他部分 was getting up into the other parts of the expo park,
有所谓的雾警要求我们 there were fog police that kept us,
一直要求我们把雾弄下俩 kept making us turn it down.
但是触发我们这么做的 But I mean what provoked us to do this
还是我们对于观看的思考 is again through thinking about looking
还有关于世博场馆历史的思考 and also thinking about the history of the expo pavilion
世博场馆一直都注重科技 which typically is about sort of technology
展现新科技 and showcasing new technologies
播放高分辨率的视频 and showing most high definition videos
很激动人心的进步 and it really all about gun-ho progress.
我们想要当坏小子 We decided wanting to be sort of bad boys
做完去相反的事情 about the whole thing to do exactly the opposite,
完全不用新科技 to in fact have, no new technology,
这个场馆什么都没有 除了老得不能再老的水 it had nothing, nothing but old fashioned water.
这就是它的结构 无一定尺寸限制的结构 This is the structure, its tensagrity
这并不是新科技 which is not a new technology
但我认为它是 but it is I think probably
那时用四根支柱做出来的 the biggest tensagrity structure
最大的无一定尺寸限制的结构 that had been made at the time on 4 columns
你可以在表面行走 the surface you can walk on,
你可以看见上面漂浮着 you can see there floating up
大概足球场那么大 there is a size of a football field so its hundred,
三百英尺长 一百英尺深 300feet by 100feet deep,
它一直上升到空中樯的顶部 八十英尺高 it goes up about 80 feet to the top of the masts in the air
在晚上所有东西都开起来后 and it defies description
你完全没法描述它 when everything is turned on like this at night.
你走进去的时候会有人给你雨衣 You are given a raincoat as you enter
慢慢走上斜坡 慢慢被这个无形的 and walk up this ramp slowly to be engulfed
液体所包围 就是这栋建筑本身 in the formless blob, that is the building itself,
你就和建筑合二为一了 you actually come one with the building.
有趣的是 And you know sort of the funny thing about
在雾里的这个体验 the experience being in this fog
让你意识到这是关于观察力 关于观看的 is that you realize it is about vision and about seeing
你意识到我们是多么依赖于观察力 and you realize how dependent we are on vision
我们身边的一切事物 and how all of the world around us
都是被视力所构建的 is constructed by and through vision
能体会到这点是因为视力在 and this is simply because it's absolutely
这片雾的沼泽中完全被剥夺了 taken away from you in this morass of fog.
我还想说说其他的东西 I also wanted to say something else
这个顶部 有一个甲板 about the top which is, there is a deck
你可以最后走出来 that you can finally make your own way out
叫做天使甲板 called the angel deck,
可能是因为它看起来像天使的翅膀 probably because it looks like angel wings
我们在那 and there we put,
弄了个酒吧 在那里只提供水 we had a bar and we served nothing but water.
水是从世界上来的 世界有很多水 Water is from the world a lot water in the world
世界充满了水 I mean is full of water,
很有意思 我们的标志 that was fun and the icon
是类似反标志的东西 可见于 which form was sort of anti-icon was iconized and depicted
各种视觉材料上 雨伞 on all sorts of peripheral material, umbrellas
糖果包装 我们最喜欢的巧克力条 and sugar packets and our favorite bar of chocolate.
当你在瑞士的时候 You know that when you are in Switzerland
你能有一条巧克力 and you own a bar of chocolate you sort of,
就像是成了世界之王 you know, you are at the top.
我们的第一个博物馆项目于2006年完工 Our first museum that was completed in 2006
是我们第一次有机会 was our sort of first opportunity
深入探索博物馆的本质 to plunder you know what the nature of a museum is
还有博物馆的职能 and what it needs to do
我们的第一步就是思考最近 and our first stop was to think about recent museums
刚完工的博物馆 Bill Power that had been completed and bill power,
和Debts Collection是两个极端的例子 and debts collection were 2extreme examples
你知道有些礼貌的方式 you know that polite vessel
并不挑战所谓艺术与 that doesn't challenge the art vs
表现力强的波希米亚风格的对立 the expressive exuberant bohemias
重新定义了整个城市 that remakes the whole city.
这似乎听起来是逻辑两极化的论点 And while that seems sort of logical bipolar argument
我们后来觉得 我们并不适合这么做 what we decided is that's not right for us
我们得下去实际看看 and we need to just go down over there somehow.
我们的地点非常地好 Our site was an incredible site
从博物馆开馆以来 which since the opening of the museum
就成了波士顿的中心 has really turned into a center of Boston
Larrups去年夏天搬出来的时候 and it sort of surprised everyone
让大家都大吃一惊 when Larrups moved out there last summer.
我觉得我们差不多把一半的波士顿 I think we may have literally scrapped
都给搜刮干净了 half Boston off of the ground
但我们认为部分原因在于 but we think that part of the reason is
ICA让大家 the ICA turned everybody's eyes got them
把目光都集中在这个废弃的滨水遗址 to look actually at this abandoned derelict waterfront site
这个地方曾是铁路堆场 which used to be the rail yards.
在波士顿港上 非常好看的地方 On Boston harbor gorgeous site in a way
有帆船 有水 之类的东西 I mean you know, sail boats and water and all of this stuff.
我们很快就意识到 And we realized very quickly
这个地方是个问题 that the site was really a problem.
在水上这个地方太抢眼 In fact it was, it's too strong to be on the water
太过强势 to have that view
博物馆的角色是内省性的 and the role of the museum was one of introspection,
思索性的 观看性的 of contemplation and looking.
我们一开始就知道 And so we knew from the very beginning
我们的博物馆需要做的 that what our museum would need to do
就是要驯服 或者编辑这个地方 would be to tame the site or to edit the site
或者把这个地方模糊掉 or to blur the site
但最重要的是要把这个地方 but essentially to take the site and turn it into
变成博物馆藏品的一部分 one of, a part of the collection of the museum
才能真正拥有这个地方 to own the site essentially.
我们也对于博物馆 We are also very interested in
的公共性本质很感兴趣 the public nature of the museum
还有博物馆是如何与水域互动 and the way that the museum could work with the water
把自己展现给波士顿看 in a way that could deliver itself to all of Boston
这就是派对用的船 and so that was sort of the party boat
是博物馆的一部分 and just sort of part of the museum,
绕着波士顿港走 sort of leading and going around Boston harbor.
波士顿港被环港走道围绕 Boston harbor surrounded by the harbor walk
是公开强制的25英尺宽的走道 publicly mandated 25 of wide walking surface
围着港口有85英里长 that goes for 85miles around the harbor
我们想那会是个有意思的 and we thought well that's an interesting
起始点 建一个民用建筑 starting point to make a civic building
我们甚至在思考 and we were thinking along the lines of even blur
模糊我们设计的边界 让这建筑 where we serve, evolves the building,
从这个场所本身进化而来 the architecture out of the site itself.
我们开始思考环港走道 We just started thinking about that harbor walk
考虑要把建筑的民用部分 and thinking to make the civic portion of the building
就是三层以下的部分 利用把木头 which is lower 3floors out of the material
拔起时要透过的硬岩石来制造 of the hard rock's they're pulling the wood up through
让这个环港走道绕着树林 and stitching weaving the harbor walk through the wood
来强制让公众参与进来 to make a sort of forced engagement of the public
与作为展览馆的博物馆互动 with the museum as a gallery
一层面向公众开放 and the ground floor is free enough for the public
可以透过窗户看到它 and you can also see it through the windows.
让展览馆的部分 And then to let the gallery portion come
从顶上降下来 有天光 北极光 from the top-down it has sky lights, north lights
就让这个艺术观景环境变得十分精致美好 and it makes very refined core art viewing environment.
这就是我们努力的成果 That is the result the cantle labor
要用来实现 which was needed to fulfill
所有的展览馆区域要求 all of the gallery area requirements
有一层是和波士顿的区划法 and one floor was in direct violation
直接冲突了 of the zoning code in Boston
这个区划法在我们开始设计 which had just been implemented the year
第一栋建筑前刚生效 before we had the first building to go,
在新的区划法下要拿到建筑许可 to be, to get a building approval under the new zoning
我们是第一个挑战这个法律的人 and we were the first one to challenge it.
但我觉得波士顿政府还是挺满意的 But I think that Boston was happy,
因为区划法里说了 任何建筑 basically the zoning said that the, any piece of architecture
都要远离水面25英尺 had to be 25feet away from the water
这样在环港走道你就可以清楚地看见天空 so that on the harbor walk you could see the sky free and clear
我们说 我们来做个交换吧 and we said why don't we do a little exchange
我们给波士顿一个新的公共空间 and give Boston a new public place
把环港走道覆盖到水边 and let us cover the harbor walk to the waterside,
这就是最后的效果 so that's what you get.
所以就有了一个环港走道延伸开来 So there's a new grand stand that's made of
得到的一个大看台 the harbor walk pulls up, a very,
它成了夏天一个很有意思的消暑地 it's become a very fun destination of summers
简直是波士顿夏天的派对好去处 essentially the new kind of summer party spot of Boston.
这个图标简洁明了 The diagram is quite simple,
环港走道带你到大看台处 the harbor walk pulls up into the grand stand,
形成了一个舞台 pulls up to form a stage
再往前延伸形成了观众席的景观部分 and then it goes up to form the scenic area of the audience,
围绕着剧院的背部 wraps the back of the theatre
然后一直通向广场 and then passes out through to the plaza.
剧院本身也是与观看有关 The theatre itself also is about looking
我们设计了一个非常开放的剧院 and we made a very open theatre to the view,
观众本身可以被当成是剧院的一部分 the viewers can be taken in as a part of the set
然后剧院可以整个被屏蔽掉 and the theatre can also be blacked out,
它可以同时容纳很多不同的制作 it can accommodate many forums of the actual productions.
这是个防火梯 This is a fire stair, it was,
这个博物馆建造费用有点高 this museum was made for a little expensively
我们只好把一些基础的部分 so we had to sort of work the rudimentary parts
放到特别的地方去 of the program into special places.
这个防火梯可以作为主楼梯使用 The fire stair operates as the main stair
它们就是烧灼过的板材而已 and they are just simple burnt plates.
但最有意思的 But the most interesting sort
我们给博物馆设计的运输设备 of conveyance element device
是电梯 that we gave the museum was the elevator
是部磨损的电梯 但也是 which was the frayed elevator but also
主要的开支来源 the primary exercise per cost,
20英尺长 10英尺深 20feet long by 10feet deep
可以传送两万磅的东西 and can transport 20 thousand pounds
还是个扫描仪 and its sort of a scanner,
嵌在建筑的中心 its embedded in the very middle of the building
有一个玻璃里面可以让你 that has its glass upfront that allows you
看到整个建筑设计的里里外外 to see outside and also inside back of the house programs
然后到达顶层的时候 and then finally when it reaches the top floor
你就可以看见展览馆了 it lets you see the gallery.
小孩们爱死它了 他们宁愿到这来 Kids love it, they'd rather come here
也不去儿童博物馆 就三条街远 than go to the children's museum which is 3 blocks away,
很好 that's pretty good.
然后展览馆本身很简单 And the galleries themselves are fairly simple,
顶部照明 可以打开 或者通过墙来关闭 top lit, open or they can be shut down with walls
通过天花板系统的分割线 on the dividing lines of the ceiling system
然后在展览馆层的边缘 and then at the very edge of the gallery floor
是一个小的假展览馆 叫做建立者展览馆 is a little snare gallery called the founder's gallery
这是在水边的一个 and this is the one that is on the water's edge.
强迫观众与水亲密互动 So the forced intimacy with the water,
这是博物馆里唯一一个地方 this is the only place in the museum
我们能让观众 where we deliver what I would call
看到所谓港口的情色一面 the sort of pornographic view of the harbor
完全不受阻挡的完美景象 that the unobstructed sort of glorious view
只有一分钟 and only for a minute
而且仅当它和主展览馆相接时 and only when it's connecting to the main galleries.
最后是我们叫做媒体技术的空间 And then lastly the space that we call the media tech
就是所有的多媒体项目 is where all of the media projects
博物馆馆主可以在这些画面上看到 that the museum curators available on these screens
有点像是一个私密的思考空间 sort of an individual space of contemplation
我们让房间稍微向下 where we tipped the room down just enough
把地平线完全弄掉了 就仅仅让水显示出来 that it edits the horizon and simply frames the water itself.
往外看看这个地方 So again sort of out looking the site
想想博物馆里在干什么 and thinking about what goes on in the museum.
让我看看 我要看看时间 好的 Let me see, I'm just going to check my time, okay!
如果你们觉得闷了 If you get bored just,
大家可以开始打呼噜 I guess somebody could start snoring,
这会是一个好迹象 that would be a good sign.
这是一个我想要给你们看的竞赛 This is a competition that I like to show
当你思考观看这个事情时 when thinking about looking
我认为我们做得不错 because I think it's, we did a really sort of a nice job
呈现了两种观看的方式 of sort of presenting sort of 2 ways of seeing,
我们没有赢得这次设计竞赛 we didn't win this competition
但是我们还是很自豪我们做了这个项目 but we're still very proud of the project.
这是个博物馆 一个大实业家的私人博物馆 This is a museum, a private museum for an industrialist
在奥地利 名叫Laneige in Austria named Laneige
现在由另一个建筑师设计开放了 it's now open in by the other architect
就在Neuhaus的一个小村庄里 and it's in this huge little hamlet of Neuhaus
美得跟明信片上的风景一样的奥地利 a picture postcard perfect Austria.
它展示艺术的方式是这样 And then it shows art like this
Laneige的藏品是战后奥地利艺术 so it's, Laneige's collection is post world Austrian art
如果你不知道是什么 and if you didn't know
基本上身体艺术在战后奥地利 basically body art was developed
兴盛开来 out of post world Austria
包括比如Nitch and included you know Nitch
我记不起所有艺术家的名字 and I forgot all the names of the artists
但是经常用血 经常用身体 but often using blood, often using the body
我们觉得这种场所与东西的 and we found this sort of dichotomy of
二元对立 the site versus the stuff
在博物馆内部的这种对立很吸引人 that was inside the museum irresistible
所以我们决定 and so what we decided to do was
把博物馆内外倒转 把所有的循环都拿掉 flip the museum inside out and take all of the circulation.
通常它是连接各个展览馆的 Then normally it connects galleries you know
在中间 最靠近 in the middle so that you, you know closest to
展览馆 是个很有效的方式来给博物馆布局 an art gallery's efficient way to organize a museum
把它内外反转 每一次 flipped it out, outside so that every time
你离开展览馆 you leave the gallery
你都可以看见 you're confronted with
这个优美如画的风景 this picture perfect post card lush landscape.
然后路线就绕着 And the circuit then revolves around
前后往复 sort of this back and forth
在风景和展览馆之间 between landscape and gallery,
艺术和自然之间 art and nature,
这是强制性的 and it's sort of a forced,
对周遭环境的理解 it's sort of apprehension of the surroundings
每次你走出展览馆 and every time you come out of one of these galleries,
之前你还在看血或者在维也纳 you're looking at blood or people you know,
的人行道上挠膝盖的人 scratching their knees on the pavement of Vienna
然后你就看到这个 and you look at this.
我们决定把它弄得更不寻常 We decided to make a little cuckoo
我们决定让它更令人心烦一点 so we just decided to make it even more upsetting
我们就把整个建筑弄倾斜了 and we decided to tilt the entire building
把建筑的一角延伸到地下 and enlarge one corner of the building into the ground.
所以当你进入到这个风景展览馆时 Thus when you exit into this landscape gallery
把这个风景弄成 which is also gallery, putting the landscape
展览的样子 on exhibition very much like the work,
你要么就是慢慢上升 you're either slowly rising up
或者慢慢下降 or slowly descending
当你终于到达这个 and when you finally get to the work
行动主义者的运动时 of the actionist mist movement
你就开始穿越地表 走进地下 you start penetrating into the earth cutting the earth.
是一个直接的暗喻 很有趣 It's a direct metaphor but sort of fun.
所以玻璃墙形成了一个培养槽 So the glass walls form terrariums in the earth
你可以沿着它向下走 that you circulate down.
偷偷说 这个主人 The owners, this is just a little aside,
这个主人的房子 the owners or the collector's house
就是在右手边可以看到的这个 is that sort of maps out there to the right,
延伸到教堂 所以你进入博物馆 the church, so when you enter the museum
从较低的停车场路上 from the parking road which is low,
你的视野是直接面对他的房子的 your view is framed on his house directly.
就是这样 这里有些图像 So that's it, and so here is just a couple of images
是绕着这个风景展览馆走的图像 of circulating around this sort of landscape gallery,
是在一片玉米田里 我们决定 it's in a cornfield we decided to
让玉米田继续保持下去 let the cornfield remain as a cornfield,
还是文化方面的问题 it's actually still a matter of cultural
在中间的部分 and then penetrating in the middle is
是一个新的公共通道 a new public passage which allows people
让大家能从博物馆中间通过 跨过展览馆 to go right through the museum and over galleries
看着展览馆 and look at the galleries
最终是悬空在河上的 and eventually be suspended over the direly river
你可以在下面这张图片上看到 which you see in this image down below here.
这种补偿抵消的方法让每个展览馆 The offset and the tipping make each gallery exist
在不同层面上存在 at a different level
我们想着我们可以利用这个 and we thought we would use that to advantage
来把参观者弄成展览的一部分 again put the sort of visitors on display
打乱原来大家预期的看展览的规范 potentially upsetting the expected norms of gallery going.
我们在天花板和地板之间弄了个洞 We put a hole in the, between the ceiling and the floor
让一些水进来 to let some of the water,
外部的环境就在展览馆内部 the atmosphere of the outside exist
作为展览馆的一个元素存在着 within the gallery as an element of gallery.
在屋顶顶部 And then on the top of the roof
我们做了个圆凿系统 we made a light scalper system
让玉米地能在绿屋顶上被看见 which allowed us to keep the cornfield on the green roof
集中灯光 and concentrate the light
通过一系列的自养的圆凿 with a series of autotrophic scalpers
朝着太阳 that would point towards the sun
或者背向太阳 这取决于 or point away from the sun depending on what,
外部的采光条件 what was, what kind of lighting conditions
是怎么样的 were out in the world.
我们其实是把这些灯光圆凿埋在田里 So essentially we planted the field with these lights,
这些灯光圆凿 these light scalpers.
好的 这是一段插曲 Okay this is, this is a little interlude,
喝点酒 喝一口酒 and has a little glass, a little sip of wine.
这是我们为利物浦双年展做的 So this is, this is a project that we did
一个项目 大概两年前 for the Liverpool biennial about 2 years ago
可能两年前 something like that.
我们得到一个公园来设计 And we were given a public park to work in
我们决定设计一丛树 and we decided to make a grove of trees,
其中三棵树不守规矩 3 of which behaved badly
把它们自己放在这些转台边缘 and positioned themselves on this turn tables.
他们有点 他们放置的角度有点歪 They are slightly, they are planted at slight angle
所以它们移动时就会触碰 so that as they move around they kind of kiss
我喜欢想到 and I always like to think about
在利物浦的Muriel俱乐部 the Muriel pubs in Liverpool
这些男的晚上出来 and these blokes coming out
看到这些树居然会动 and seeing these trees moving after a late night.
我没有实际去目击这种事情 I never actually have to witness on them in person
真的是这样 so I am, it's really like that.
这张图不是我原想放这个地方的 God this is not exactly what I thought was here
但是我就快点讲讲这张 but I'll just talk about this really quickly,
我们被邀请到洛杉矶的威尼斯B we were invited to the Venice B in LA.
两年前的建筑B The architecture B in LA 2years ago which is,
在陶器厂举办 which takes place in a pottery,
有四分之一英里长 五百年历史的建筑 it's a quarter mile long, a 500year old building
在威尼斯的军事区 in the military district of Venice,
很漂亮的建筑 旁边有运河 beautiful, beautiful building with a canal
我真怀念那里的空调 on the side and I missed the air conditioner
这次展览原先的主题是 anyway the original theme of the show was,
大概是关于现代世界的 I don't know of the modern world
关于科技是如何侵入我们的生活 and it was sort of about the way technology has invaded
如何成为了我们身体和生活的延伸 but also become an extension of our bodies and our lives,
我们就是在考虑这个问题 and so we were just thinking about that,
主题最后改了一点点 the theme changes a little bit in the end.
因为我们对这个场所非常感兴趣 But because we're so interested in the site
在某些具体的大学校园里 and working with sites in very specific college sites
我们决定我们要做一个意式咖啡吧 we decided that we wanted to make an espresso bar
就在制陶厂里面 in the middle of the pottery.
走了十分之八英里之后 What better thing to do after walking an 8th of a mile
看了一堆展览之后 and seeing a million exhibits,
站在这喝杯意式咖啡真不错 just stand up and have a little espresso made
水还是来自威尼斯的运河水 with canal water from Venice,
所以我们就开始和一个威尼斯的公司合作 so we started working with a company there in Venice
来研发这中反向渗透 to develop this sort of reverse osmosis,
一个净化的机器 a purifying machine that would
从运河中取水 take the water out of the canals
让它变成完全可以饮用的水 and actually make it completely drinkable.
这是可以做到的 他们用这个机器 This can happen and they use this machine,
在世界上很多地方 利用这个技术 this technology in many parts of the world
来净化水 already to purify water
但是我们想要把这个过程戏剧化 but we wanted the theatricize this process
这样你们能看见混浊的水 so that you see the sludgy water
从运河中升上来 经过精华罐 going from the canal and then tanks,
变得越来越干净 it's getting cleaner and cleaner
然后就进入了中间的Ranchino机 and then it goes to the ranchino machine in the middle.
我们正要 And we were going to,
我怎么都没见过这些画 how come I didn't even see these drawings
我们要把这个吧台从柱子那里 but we're going to support that
支撑起来 the bar completely from above hung from the columns,
五百年历史的老柱子了 500 year old columns
政府那里对于用柱子 they had no problem with those
来挂意式咖啡机没有问题 hanging these espresso machines
这个让我们很吃惊 was kind of amazing to me,
这就是最后的效果图 that was in fact more like what it was going to look like.
他们觉得不好的是 The thing they did have a problem
我们要用运河水 with us doing was actually serving coffee
来冲泡咖啡 out of the machine canal water
市长说了如果我们用运河水冲泡 and the mayor said if you serve a single cup of espresso
哪怕是一杯咖啡 with that canal water
我们就要被关进监狱里 you're going to be thrown into jail.
我原来认为挺激动人心的 And for a while I thought that was really exciting
因为我们经过了那座桥 because when we go over the bridge of size
但是那地方已经成了博物馆了 but that's long since been turned into a museum.
结果我们发现 It turns out we have sided
我们选的净化水公司选错了 with the wrong water purification company.
我再说几个项目 Just a couple of more projects
关于观看的 thinking about looking and seeing
还有我们针对博物馆的一些设计 and some of our work around the museum,
我们最近赢得了一个竞赛 we recently won a competition on our,
是给里约的一个Copper Cabana海滩 in design and development for a project
做设计研发的项目 on Copper Cabana beach in Rio
叫做声音影像博物馆 called Museum of Image and Sound.
这个博物馆促进了我们研发的 And this project advances many of
一些形式与社会领域 the formal and social areas of our inquiry
我们一开始是和IBM以及ICA合作 that we started actually with IBM and with ICA
研发一些关于表面的本质 into the nature of the surface
还有民主的表面 and the democratic surface
我们把Copper Cabana海滩想成 thinking about Copper Cabana beach
是一个非常民主的地方 as an incredibly democratic place
欢迎市里来自各个社会阶层 that welcomes everybody in the city
的人士前来 from every social stratum.
离这里两条街远 And only 2blocks away is the,
就是贫民窟 are the frivolers or one frivoler,
刚好就在我们的场址的两条街远 It's actually 2blocks behind our site
在这个非常垂直的山上 on this incredibly vertical hill,
简直就是一张贫困的图像 it's sort of picture as poverty,
我的意思是 山腰通常是有钱人住的 I mean normally the hillsides are for the wealthy
平原才是穷人住的 and flatlands are for the poor,
但是在里约刚好反过来 it's exactly the opposite in Rio.
但是正是这两个情况 But those 2conditions are the things
激发了我们设计博物馆格式的灵感 that inspired the museum the format of the museum.
我们对于把民主的表面 We're also interested in the extension
延伸到走道上很感兴趣 of that democratic surface into
这些标记 the sidewalks of the blurry marks affected
这些人行道上的标记 these gorgeous marks on the sidewalks
成了城市的图标 that become the image of the city
就像我们在ICA的设计一样 and like our work on the ICA
我们想 我们直接从城市中建一个博物馆 we thought let's build the museum out of the city itself,
还能有什么 能比建个能够 what better thing to do for a museum
展示当地艺术家和演员的博物馆更好呢 that is going to showcase work of local artists and actors,
所以本着这个原则 我们把这些标记 so in principle we've taken the blurry marks
人行道标记向内折叠 of sidewalk folded it in upon itself.
堆在一起 有个前后往复的节奏 It stacked it making a rhythm that goes back and forth
以不同的方式把展览馆空间折叠起来 all differently in folding gallery space
还有公共空间项目 and public space programs
主要针对餐馆 that are accessible to the public restaurant,
酒吧 迪斯科 bar, disco tack,
非常激动 I'm excited.
这就是建筑的样子 And that's the sort of the image of the building
建筑外表面 with the exterior surface of the building
从走道那里折叠起来 folded up from the sidewalk
对于公众完全是可接近的 and completely accessible to the public
不用付钱 你就可以走上六楼 without paying and you can walk up
到达顶楼 the six floors to the top floor
顶楼是个户外电影院 你可以看见 which is an outdoor cinema and you can see
这张很漂亮的景观 the fair view of that picture
在背景这里 大家习惯了 before in the background people used to
在这个市里海拔高的地方行走 walking at great heights in the city.
这个建筑就这样囊括了 And to us the building sort of encapsulates
这个城市的地理和社会环境 the geographic and social conditions of the city,
垂直和水平的民主表面 the vertical and the horizontal democratic surface.
这是一栋很简单的展览馆建筑 It's a simple building for galleries
一个蜿蜒的 固定的空间 and a sort of meandering, anchoring space
是底部的这个礼堂 an auditorium down below,
就在这个场址上 that's it on its site
你可以在这栋建筑的外表面看见 and there you see this sort of free access walkway
向公众开放的走道 on the exterior of the building.
这是展览馆的景观 This is a view of the gallery
在其中一个展览馆内部 on the inside of one of the galleries.
他们得把展览馆的很多媒体部分 They had to darken there
都做暗化处理 a lot of media components of the galleries
还有屋顶 屋顶的电影院 and then the roof has, the rooftop cinema,
就是这个 that's it.
所以我们还得继续思考观察力的问题 So here again we continue our thought about vision
观察力是如何与邻近性问题挂钩的 and how it relates to where we are our proximity
还有如何与标志性景观挂钩的 and also to the sort of iconicity view.
这可能是Copper Cabana海滩 This is perhaps one of the most recognized images
最具辨识度的图景之一了 in the world and Copper Cabana beach.
这可能是一个消遣 And again potentially a distraction
或者可能会是博物馆的藏品之一 or a potentially part of the collection of the museum
我们决定和我们在ICA做的一样 and we decided again like we did at the ICA
把景观变成一个关于场址的体验 to turn the view into a curated experience of the site,
所以我们按街区来分割这个景观 so we divided the view open to these blocks
在这个景观当中挑出一条路 and have taken out of the view a pathway
代表你在这个建筑中行进的过程 that represents your progression of the building
从地面通过展览馆 through the galleries from the ground
一直到最高层 up to the top surface,
从走道一直到天空 from a sidewalk to sky
而这个建筑会修正你两边的视野 and the building actually curates your vision of the side
随着你沿着走道往上走时 as you move above it.
透过它的一些孔 Through it are sort of bristles laid
这些孔是作为一个挡住视野的东西 that works like an antichlor
这就是它的工作原理 and this is sort of demonstrating how it works.
这个东西布满了孔 And so the bristle laid is thick with pores
而每个孔的圆柱 perforated into it and the cylinders of each hole
有特殊的角度 are angled in such a way
限制并集中了你所能看到的视野 that they frame your view and focus your view
而这个框架的中心点随着你 and that frame focus shifts
在建筑物中上升 也会改变 as you move up the building
通过不同的展览馆 through the different galleries
从走道最终到达 to where it takes you from the sidewalk
一直到达天空 all the way up to the sky.
Carolina Anderson的藏品也是博物馆的一部分 Carolina Anderson's collection was part of the museum
她让我很开心 and she makes me really happy
她只有五十二岁 and she was only like 52
在巴西 and she also was in Brazil
是葡萄牙裔 and she was Portuguese
她年轻时搬到那里 but she moved there when she was young
被一个巴西人收养 and she was wholly adopted by a Brazilian.
我们都多博物馆学很感兴趣 And we are interested in museography
也对我们 and the way to help you know,
通过展品来讲故事感兴趣 tell the story our artifacts,
还有让观众能体验到 also engage the viewer in a direct visceral
本能地体验我们的展品 sort of experience about our artifacts.
这是好几年前了 So I mean this is a couple of years ago,
现在有了很多进步 there's been a lot of progress in the way that,
那是Carolina的裙子 so that was, that was Carolina's dress
有个小视频 in a little video and a sort of
灯光打开后 so the light comes out kind
有个平面的视频影像 and what was a flat video image
变成了真的视频 then becomes a real one.
然后你就指着你的手机 And then you can just point your phone
这就是科技进步的 and this is where there have been so many advances
很多地方 in technologies
然后你的掌上电脑就能实时播放 and that your PDA can show out in reality.
我不是在宣称我们发明了这个概念 I'm not going to claim that we developed this concept
但是我们从一开始 but we were there along with it
就一起开发这个东西 from the beginning
通过使用科技 and just ways of using technology
让你的体验更加丰富 to help kind of make your experience richer
向你传达更多的信息 and deliver more information to you
通过建筑 它的场址和环境 using building and its site and surroundings
来让你对材料有更进一步的认识 too to contribute to your understanding of the material.
这里有一系列的照片 So here's a series of photographs
是真实的 我们的想法是 that are over real and the thought being that you could,
地面上能有个投影 there would be a projection on the floor
你可以找到照片 and you can find the photograph
它们会让你体验 and they would take you to a couple of
一些真实的影像 lifetime version of that view.
通过视频来观看某些形式的图片 So through video were some forms of photography.
因为现实世界没有这么大的传输量 And here because there is no mass transit in real,
交通很可怕 the traffic is horrendous
所以我们想我们在前门 so we thought well let's have a café right
弄个咖啡屋 by the front door
我们会把所以的交通摄像头放到视野中 and we'll put all the traffic cams of real up to view
你就知道你什么时候能安全开车回家了 so you'll know when you can drive home safely,
什么时候你的街道车流不多 know when your street clears out
或者你可以坐在那喝喝咖啡 or you just sit there and keep drinking coffee.
这里有个小的视频 Anyway this is a quick little video
博物馆的视频 that just shows the museum
从这个场址诞生的 it sort of generated out of the site
这个走道 被切开 往上拉 再自己卷回去 the sidewalk, sliced, pulled up, wrapped back on itself.
有个礼堂 There is an auditorium
我们可以弄个小故事 which we can make a little clear story
就像音乐会一样 slot down to like music outs
你作为一个观察者走过去 as you're walking by as an observer
体验到下面正在发生什么 and experience what's happening down there.
这就是我们的假人在走楼梯 There's our zombies walking up the stairs
在展览馆里 我们在和馆长 and in the gallery itself we were working
一起工作 with a curator down there
和他一起设计博物馆 just developing the museum with us.
有个外向的方式 There's sort of outward approach towards
让这栋建筑帮你观察事物 letting the building help you see
这个厚层 and so that's the bristle layer there
可以控制你的视野 that controls your view,
在中间有些小栏杆 some little bars on the midway up,
还有楼梯的结构 还有个餐馆 the structure of stairs and there's a restaurant
在顶部 让你能看见全景 at the very top finally giving back the full view
就在ICA那栋建筑的顶部 happen in the ICA at the top of that building.
然后有个视频 And then the movie out there,
我想这今晚最后一个我 I think this is the last project
跟你们要说的项目 that I'm going to show you tonight,
如果有人愿意留下来 我有更多的幻灯片 I do have more slides if anybody wants to stay
我可以给他们看更多 I can show them more but I was,
但是我想就在这结束 I think I'd end here.
最后的这个项目是 And the sort of last thing in this project
我们觉得很精彩 is one that we think is really sort of wonderful,
是这个机构重建自己形象的 exuberant way for this institution
一个很好的方式 to remake itself to give,
通过项目来扩展自己的能力 to expand its ability to program
而不用去使用 without resorting to the kind of things
一些我们一般预期一些文化机构会使用的方法 that we sort of expect a lot of cultural institutions to do
对于这些机构我们都很激动 and what we are excited about at these institutions
就是这些建筑 which is the buildings
这也是为什么我们要做建筑业 and that's why we do architecture
这样我们才能建新的建筑 so we can build new buildings.
这里的Heshom有谷仓商店 But here the (Heshom) which has grown barn shops,
很美 beautiful,
这里有甜甜圈形状的建筑 I can't eat doughnuts shape buildings here
就在这栋购物中心的右手边 right on the right hand side of the mall
这是现代艺术的版本 which is the contemporary art version
占据了一个罕有的场址 of the (spensonian) occupies a rarified site,
是美国监管得 one of the most difficult sites
最严格最困难的场址之一 actually in one of the most regulated sites in America
一个最封闭的建筑 and also one of the most closed buildings
几乎像个甜甜圈一样 sort of almost perfect I guess as a doughnut.
它没有一个正式的前厅 It never actually had the proper kind of lobby
或者通风的 辅助的空间 or a vent space or sort of ancillary space
这是博物馆需要的 它需要 that museums want and need to make themselves
让自己在财政上可持续发展 financially sustainable these days.
这是建筑中央的庭院 Here is the courtyard in the middle of the building
我们被委托思考如何 and we were approached to think about ways
临时扩展他们的项目能力 to temporarily expand their programming ability
给他们提供一个通风空间 and to provide a vent space for them
我们就开始思考内部结构 and we started thinking about inner plate structures
现在当然这些东西 which was not you know that unusual these days
并不是不常见 to see these kinds of things.
但是我们认为这是个很好的机会 But we thought that there was a really great opportunity
特别是对于这栋建筑 with this building in particular
使用这整个甜甜圈 to use the whole of the doughnut
让我们做一个充气的空间 to help us make an inflate structure.
所以这就是我们的临时安装 So this is our permanent temporary installation
通过Heshom的一个洞跳出来 that pops up through the hole of the Heshom
每年两次 每次一个月 twice a year for one month at a time
从变越膨胀开来 and it oozes out underneath the edge
好像是个疝气盘或者什么塑料的东西 as if it's a herniated disc or something with clear plastic
这就是咖啡馆 And the interior space is quite ample
这个内部空间挺大的 that's going to be the café.
能容纳很多观众 and will allow for great large audiences
来观看表演 to see performances,
这个每年有两个月 will totally change for the 2 months
会完全改变形状 of the year that it's up.
内部中庭的出现 The appearance of the atrium from inside the building
可以用来举办电影节 还有场址的项目 can have film festivals and programming with sites
一些特定的艺术品或者景观的摆设 specific works of art or spectacular installations .
这现在正处于设计状态中 and this is actually being developed right now
要把它设计成一个 into a piece of temporary,
永久的临时建筑 permanent temporary architecture.
到了尾声了 Oh there is a coda
我说了我们做了告诉路线 So you know how I said we did the High Line,
这整个演讲都是关于观看的 this whole talk is all about looking
高速路线的一个东西 and one of the things that has happened
是它可以往回转 with the High Line is that it can turn back
正是和观看相符 and it's very much about looking,
它在城市电网的三十英尺高的地方 its 30feet above the City grid
提供了一个很罕见的能观看纽约的方式 and it provides its rarified space of seeing New York
你从未见过 like you've never seen it before it cuts the buildings,
这真是个美丽且神奇的地图 it's really beautiful and wonderful map
但是我们和它没有关系 but we had nothing to do with that.
这就是它被制造出来的方式 That's just the way it was made
但是它产生了一整个新水平的 but its engendering a whole new level of
互动 特别是现在的标准化酒店 sort of interaction now especially the standard hotel
就在高速路线沿线 which spans High Line and has,
它在观看着 也在被观看 is looking and being looked at.
这个已经在酒店成为一时风尚 It's become quite a thing at the hotel
也是被酒店管理层鼓励的行为 and in fact encouraged by the management
这里我就不说具体名字了 who shall remain nameless.
我就在这里结束吧 On that I think I'm going to call it quits.
谢谢你们没有打呼噜 Thank you very much for not snoring!
掌声 (clapping)
我可以开始回答问题了 Oh yeah I'll take questions.
问题 不清楚 Question (not clear)
只是在一层 It's only of one floor.
就是在第一层 It's just the ground floor.
只覆盖了第一层 It's just covered the ground floor
第一层是开放的 which is now open air.
可以作为举办盛事的场所 It can be used as a place to hold the event.
所以它没有很多层 So it doesn't have multiple floors in it.
它并不包括实际的展览馆 No, no, it doesn't include the actual galleries
还有那个甜甜圈的形状 and the doughnut, it just makes yeah, but anyway,
你可以一会问问Davin Allen他就在 you can ask David Allen who is working
那里工作 on that after the show.
它可以告诉你给它充气要多少钱 He can tell you how much it costs to inflate.
如果有人想要 就去试试看 If anybody wants to, try it out.
吃几片伟哥 然后就可以了 A couple of balls of Viagra and it's done.
还有其他问题吗 你 Any other questions? Yes.
很多你的早期项目都是创造的 Question: So many of your earlier projects created by
在自然景观和真实现实之间的斡旋 station between natural vision and authentic reality
或者说是人工景观 or artificial vision
你能否多说一些 I wonder if you could perhaps speak more about
你最近的项目 recent projects
我觉得我们所有的设计 I think that all of the work has always been
都是过滤过的景观 about mediated vision
不管是否通过科技过滤 and you know whether it's mediated
或者通过一个窗户过滤 through technology or through a window frame.
我们认为既然人活在世上 We think that existing in a world,
都要受到一个框架的限制 you're always presented with a frame
这个框架会改变我们看东西的方式 that changes the way we see things
我们就是试图加强这种限制 and we are just trying to heighten that
用特定的仅限于这个项目 in ways that are specific to a project
或者仅限于这个场址的方式 and specific to a site.
所以我认为目标并没有改变那么多 So I think the objective hasn't changed that much.
有时候当你在艺术展览里 It's a lot easier sometimes to point out
要指出生活与艺术的区别 the difference between life and art when you are in,
是比较容易的 when you're contained in art exhibit
或者说一次剧院表演 or let's say a theatre piece.
你已经走神了 You are already in a distracted
或者你在人生的那个阶段已经不同了 and you are kind of you're different in life at that point.
所以我认为我们的设计 So I think that as the work become
在定义上不仅局限于建筑 more architectural sort of by definition,
在它如何局限了你的视野方面 it's become less distinct that the way
变得越来越不明显了 that it mediates your views.
但是我认为这样的方法今天仍然凑效 But I think that the work still works that way.
在你多种多样的设计中 Question: In the diversity of your works
你在个人实践的发展方面 you find yourselves in private practice development
我正在思考这问题到底什么意思 I'm wondering exactly what that questions means ..
当然 好吧 我们很幸运我们能 Sure, ok, yeah, luckily we've been able to
一直维持着我们 maintain what we often call
输钱部门的运转 the money losing department at the office.
坐在那里的David And David who is sitting over here
就是输钱部门的头头 is the head of that money losing department
但是他在那玩得很开心 but he has a lot of fun.
它是我们的贡献因素之一 It's one of the major contributors along with
从我们的办公室到这次的酒展览 from our office to the wine show.
我们把钱从我们的赢钱部门 We pour money back into the money losing department
输入输钱部门 from our money earning department.
因为我们想要我们的工作室里 Because we want to maintain a research arm
有个研发团队 in the studio,
我们的很多操作都是自己发起的 a lot of the projects are self-initiated
但是也有很多是其他人找来的 but a lot of them are problems that come to us
因为我们以帮人解决难题 because we are known to be people
而为人所知 who like to deal with problems
所以如果没有人给我们难题 and so if we are not given a problem,
我们就制造难题 we like to make problems.
这就是我们所做的东西 That's sort of what we do.
我们很幸运 So we've been lucky in the regard that
能够在这个行业中两边都能做到 we've been able to maintain the two arms of that practice.
但是这不容易 所以不便宜 But it hasn't been easy, I guess. So they are not cheap.
有时候潮流 And you know, sometimes it works from one tide
从这一边流向那一边 sort of flows into the other
我们就找寻这种机会 and we look for these opportunities
但是我们并不逼迫他们 but we don't force them to match
去搭配我们工作室的这两个工作层面 make between those two sides of the office.
你可以谈谈这次的酒展览吗 Question: can you talk about the wine show
我要说的是 What I would say about that is rather than
不用等我来说 me talking about it
你们应该都去看看 that you guys should all go
它会给你们一个机会 and again it gives you an opportunity
来品藏一些你们当地的产品 to sample some of your local products.
你知道的 酒展览 You know the wine show
继续探索关于自然的一系列东西 it continues in a line of investigation about nature,
关于很多议题的转化 for one thing and sort of the transformation
或者说包含 or the embodiment of many issues
还有在一个小东西里面包括的观点和概念 and ideas and concepts of society in one little thing
就像是借出展览之类的 which is sort of a loan or was about.
所以这和我们的一些探索 So it's very much in keeping with
是相一致的 some of our explorations
但是我要鼓励大家都去看看 but I would encourage everybody to go and see it.
你刚刚谈论了一些 Question: You talked a little bit about
你如何构想一个主意的 how you might form an idea
在一开始的阶段 initial stage you
每个项目都有所不同 It is sort of different on every project
但是每个项目都有相似点 and it's sort of the same on every project.
所以我们工作的方式是相似的 So the way we work is very similar
这给了我们一些共同基础 so that gives us a little bit of grounding.
我们开始的时候 我们研究项目 When we started I think you were looking at
会有一些关于主题的 the projects there are thematic
或者关于形式的策略 从一个项目 and even formal strategies that find their ways
到下一个项目 from project to project jumping to the next one
主要是因为 and it's mostly because we are you know,
对于这些设计我们对有些 there are some themes to the work
主题很感兴趣 在继续探索的时候 that we are interested in and in continuing to explore,
观察力就是其中一个重要的主题 vision being one of the primary themes.
但是这总的来说是个创造力的问题 But you know that's the question of creativity in general.
这就是每个人如何想出自己的看法的方式 It's how does anybody come up with their ideas.
对 你可以采用很多不同的方式 Yes, you can go a lot of different ways
但是我们开始探索的时候 but there is sort of body of work in the trajectory
是由一些现有的设计 of exploration that we start with
然后我们在这之上再加上新东西 and we lay new stuff on it
然后看看效果如何 and see where is goes.
我们在现在看来是很过时的了 We are really sort of old-fashioned nowadays.
问题 Question:
你的意思是 建筑的类型 是吗 You mean, building types? Is that what that means?
是的 基本建筑类型 (yeah, building for ..bases )
我们正在做一个我个人 We are doing something I am really interested
很感兴趣的东西 in personally which is actually happening.
我们在中国设计一个工厂 Because we are doing a factory in China
我觉得那很吸引人 and I find that to be pretty interesting
因为它不是博物馆 because it's not a museum.
而是某个经济体的必经之路 It's actually the route of certain economy
我想很多建筑师会害怕 and I think a lot of architects will be scared of that
去看那些住得不好的工人居住的地方 to watch up, where ...poor-housing workers live.
但是对我而言这很有趣 But for me, that's a really interesting one.
我们没有主动去找那个机会 但是机会来了 We didn't seek that out but it came
我们就把它当作挑战 and we embraced it as a challenge
所以很有意思 and so that's sort of interesting.
沿着这个思路走 我想 And along those lines, I think,
住房是我们以前很少涉及的 housing is something we've done a little work on
但是我认为有很多 but I think there is a lot there
我们的设计是关于家庭生活的 and so much of our work was about domesticity,
家庭的问题 issues of the family.
这些主意对我们而言很有意思 Those ideas are still really potent
也很有说服力 and interesting to us, you know like
就像是集体住房 还有单个家庭住房 mass housing as well as single family houses,
领域问题很有意思 territory are interesting.
问题 特别是通过技术 Question: especially through technology
很多人都在讨论 and a lot of people argue that
我也想知道你的观点 and I was wondering where you stand on that
我们现在比较少用媒体 We use media less now, I guess, but you know,
我们只看见我们砍价你的东西 we only see what we see.
我们不能同时有多个层次的观察力 We can't have multiple layers of vision at the same time.
所以在影像数量方面有所增加 So I think there is an increase of the amount of images
但是在观看方面并没有 but there's not an increase of seeing.
所以我认为总是会有个地方 So I think there is always a place
这些新东西会让我们有机会 where all of this new stuff provides us more .
对它作出反应 to react against.
我不会说我们要 I wouldn't say that we are going to
改变我们的方法 change our approach
但是我认为它给了我们不同的媒介 but I think it offers different media
以及不同的工具来使用 and different tools to use
来创造出新鲜的设计 以适应 in order to make fresh work that sort of deals with
我们现有的条件 the conditions that we have right now.
对 我们都受到影像的冲击 Yeah, we are bombarded with images
但是每次你张开眼睛 but every time your eyes are open,
你就在看一个影像 you are seeing an image,
不管是同样的影像 whether it's the same image
还是一百个不同的影像 or a hundred of other different images.
我只是在乱说而已 I'm just making, I'm bullshitting!
还有其它问题吗 Ok, any more questions?
我有感觉这个问题后我得喝点酒了 I have a feeling there might be some wine after this.
哦 太好了 就你 Oh, perfect, yes.
问题 Question: ..
伯克利艺术博物馆会很棒的 The Berkeley Art Museum is going to be amazing.
我们已经快到展示设计的阶段了 We are, I believe, getting very close to showing the design.
你知道 You know,
就是ETO博物馆缩小了尺寸的版本 it's the scale back version from the ETO museum,
我们改进并增添了一部分 it's renovation and addition.
它很大方雅致 也很精确 As such, it's very sartorial and very precise
有点不守常规 and about sort of ..away.
有东西是倒放的 有东西会长出来 Things are inverted, things will grow out.
我是说放置的那些东西 Of the insertions, it's going to be
这将会是个很好的项目 a really nice project, new,
继承了我们一些其他项目的传统 working in the vein of some of our other projects
给这个城市一些 and then it's giving over to the city,
在博物馆内部和博物馆本身的东西 the stuff that's inside and the museum itself.
所以它是一栋比较慷慨的建筑吧 So it's very generous building, I hope.
问题 我们的工作室就在告诉路线旁 Question: Our studio is based right off the highline ..
我们对于如何通过 we are really interested in
高速路线进入城市 how into the city by the highline
以及旁边的建筑 and how are the buildings being built around it
是如何把高速路线融合在一起 are really bringing the highline into them
这种融合怎么促成了 and how that incorporating
一种新类型的都市化和类型 a new type of urbanism and typology
你想让我说的是什么 what do you what me to say about it?
是否你有任何关于高速路线 if you have anything to speak about
的问题 不用讲得很长 the highline without continuing the topic too long.
它是一个很酷的空间 产生了很多东西 No, it's a cool space that's engendered a lot.
给纽约的都市化带来了新生命 It's breathed new life into the New York City urbanism
有很多新的思考 and there's been a lot of fresh thinking
被高速路线催生了 that's been engendered by the highline and its arrival
有很多的巡游发生了 there's been a lot of cruising.
因为它是个很性感的空间 That's happened because it a sexy space.
好吧 就到这里 谢谢你们 OK, on that note. Thank you!