大家晚上好 我是 米拉 布尔曼 Good evening everybody. I'm Myla Burman,
加州艺术学院建筑系的系主任 the director of Architecture at CCA and
我很荣幸能够为大家介绍 it's with great pleasure that I'm able to introduce
来自荷兰的 阿德里安 戈塞 Adriaan Geuze from the Netherlands
今天晚上来为我们做讲座 as our lecturer this evening.
我之间在 查尔斯 沃太梅的讲座中说过 I had noted previously in Charles Waltime's lecture
在2011年我们要开始一个新的研究生课程 that in 2011 we'll be launching a new graduate program
方向是城市设计和景观 in urban design and landscape and that a number of
所以今年很多的讲座都会是关于这方面的 our lecturers this year are dedicated to this.
我大概也说过 这个新的课程 And I also might add that our new program
会是个跨学科的课程 will be an inter-disciplinary program
包括城市设计和城市景观 between urban design and landscape and
这个课程就是受到了例如今天晚上 it's specifically inspired by practices such as
要为你们做讲座的 West-8一样的事务所的启发 West-8, the one you are about to see this evening
阿德里安是 West-8的创办人之一 Adriaan is the founding partner
也是 West-8的设计主管 and design director of West-8.
West-8是景观和城市设计领域 One of the most significant in preeminent landscape
在世界范围中的佼佼者 and urban design firms in the world.
在哥本哈根 伦敦 莫斯科 纽约 马德里 With projects in Copenhagen, London, Moscow,
多伦多和阿姆斯特丹都可以见到他们的设计 New York, Madrid, Toronto and Amsterdam.
在1990年赢得罗马建筑大奖之后 After winning the Rome prize in 1990,
阿德里安和West-8安排和设计 Adriaan and West-8 established a global reputation
公共环境的方式 for their approach to the planning
名满全球 and design of public environment.
他们以重建环境为出发点 'Integrating culture, urban design, landscape,
将文化 城市设计 景观 public space, architecture and engineering
公共空间 建筑和工程 into a new terrain by re-interpreting context
融合成了一个新领域 as a point of departure.
West-8早期的项目 The critical importance of West-8's earlier projects
例如在鹿特丹的的Shouwburgplein项目 such as the Shouwburgplein in Rotterdam,
以及阿姆斯特丹河岸发展之一 Borne-Sporenburg master plan in
Borne-Sporenburg岛滨水居住区的总规划 Amsterdam's waterfront development which is
它是阿姆斯特丹河岸发展中 one of the most highly successful projects
最成功的项目之一 on the waterfront in Amsterdam.
两个项目都是在90年代中期完成的 Both completed in the mid-90s and
之后的项目例如在伦敦的Chiswick公园 later projects like Chiswick park in London
和2002年在瑞士依佛登 and the 2002 expo exhibition site
举行的博览会的会场 inYverdon-les-Bains in Switzerland,
他们将荷兰的景观:多彩的郁金花 the surreal poly-chrome dutch landscape of tulips
和低垂的云彩穿插入 and low hanging clouds that was inserted into
瑞士的山峦之中 the mountains of Switzerland
使他们的这种在建筑中综合材料和文化的 gained the firm an international reputation for
城市景观设计 the intelligent spacial material and cultural synthesis
以及强调两者的有机的 of landscape urban design in architecture
结合的重要性的这种做法 and the importance of establishing a creative
在国际上引起了广泛的富有创见的讨论 and critical dialogue across these practices.
最好的景观和城市化的综合 It's perhaps not surprising that
出现在荷兰 the best synthesis of landscape and urbanism
并不奇怪 might evolve from within the Netherlands.
这个建立在沼泽地上的平原国家 A flat country emerging from swampland
50%的土地 where 50% of the INAUDIBLE landscapes
仍旧在海平面以下 still remains below sea level.
脆弱的地形却要供养 A fragile terrain supporting a population density
人口密度是美国的100倍的人民 that is 100 times that of America.
在极端环境的挑战之下 And where extreme environmental challenges
组织和建造景观本身 and the organization and the building of
已经不仅仅是 the landscape itself would not only be a precursors
建造建筑的准备了 to the making of any form of architecture but
它本身就是一种很难的建筑行为 would itself become a highly architectural act.
这种对于景观的理解基于 This understanding of landscape through
景观的脆弱和巧妙 its extreme artifice and fragility,
景观能为城市生活和文化带来的 its ability to support and invigorate urban life
活力和支持 and culture
以及景观直接 its capacity to directly interact within
减轻巨大环境冲击的能力 mitigated enormous environmental impacts
这种理解肯定影响了 阿德里安 has certainly influenced Adriaan's
和 West-8的发展 and West-8's evolution.
这个公司可以说 A firm that we could say
最大程度上影响了 has probably had the single largest impact on
人们对于景观建筑行业 increasing the awareness of the profession of
认识的提升 landscape architecture and
以及它在全球范围内的重要性 its importance across the globe.
我会让 阿德里安他自己解释一下 I will let Adriaan himself explain the importance of
在他2008年 由Burkhouzer出版的 the enormous inflatable cows on the cover of
专著封面上巨大的充气牛的重要性 his 2008 monograph published by Burkhouzer
它同景观这个概念紧密相连 which is importantly tied to this notion of landscape.
West-8 和阿德里安 戈塞 West-8 and Adriaan Geuze
因为他们的作品拿到了很多的奖项 have received numerous awards for their work;
其中包括荷兰的Maaskantprijs大奖 among them the Dutch Maaskantprijs award,
Rosa-Barbra第一欧洲景观奖 the Rosa-Barbra first European landscape prize,
拉奇绿色城市设计奖 and the Veronica Rudge Green prize for urban design.
阿德里安自1994年起 Adriaan has also been a visiting professor
就是哈佛大学的客座教授 at Harvard University since 1994,
荷兰的达尔福特理工大学 was a professor of architecture at
建筑学教授 the Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands;
他还是NAI he is a board member of the NAI:
荷兰建筑协会董事会的成员 The Netherlands Architectural institute and
同时他还是2005年第二届 was the curator of a critically important exhibition:
鹿特丹国际建筑双年展中 The Flood in Rotterdam
一个名为"鹿特丹的洪水"的 for the second international architectural Biennale
重要展览的负责人 in Rotterdam in 2005
展览就举行在新奥尔良洪水之前 just before the flood that hit New Orleans.
今天晚上我们非常幸运地 We are extremely fortunate to
请到了阿德里安 Gauze have Adriaan Gauze here this evening with us
请大家同我一起欢迎 阿德里安 please join me in welcoming Adriaan.
大家晚上好 Good evening.
非常荣幸到这里 I am extremely lucky to be here
见到大家 with so many people
这所学校已经让我印象深刻了 and I'm impressed by this school already.
我希望我带对了幻灯片 I hope I brought the right slides.
我认为这很重要 Actually I think it's important,
我们在景观建筑和城市设计 we do a lot of work in the field of
这个领域做了很多工作 landscape architecture and urban design.
我们做了很多与安装有关的项目 We do a lot of installation related projects.
但我觉着 But too, I think it's interesting
思考一下有个问题也很有趣 to speculate a little bit about an issue
那就是:叙事 which might be the word: narrative.
它在建筑学中是一个很老的话题 Which is very old in architecture, specifically
特别是在建筑和设计学院 in architecture schools and design schools.
叙事看起来 Narrative seems to be
好像是个19世纪的过时话题 almost old fashioned 19th century.
我坚信叙事的作用 I strongly believe in narrative.
它有时能带来成功 But sometimes it brings nice projects
有时不会 但让我们试试吧 and sometimes it doesn't. But let's try.
这个夏天我去了巴东 This summer I visited Padang
因为我在一个杂志上读到 because I read in a magazine that
在意大利有一个修道院 there is a monastery in Italy
那儿出现了一个奇观 where a strange miracle took place.
在修道院那儿有几个院子 And in this monastery there are a few courtyards
其中一个院子里有棵松树 and in one of these courtyards there is a pine tree.
出现了一个很不可思议的情况 There is miraculous situation.
结出了非常非常多的松果 Preceding an immense amount of pine cones.
这就有点像持续性的高潮 And it's almost a sort of constant orgasm
修道士们开始观察这些松果 and the monks they started to stare at the pine cones.
并把它们全都收集起来 and bring them all over the courtyard
这是一棵很奇怪的松树 This is a strange pine
它会不停地结松果 which doesn't stop producing pine cones.
奇怪的是 The strange thing is,
那儿的空气很奇怪 闻起来有些冲 it has a strange atmosphere, the smell is harsh,
是死掉的 但还充满种子的 definitely the pine cones they are dead
松果的味道 but they are filled with seeds.
很多朝圣者到那儿参观 A lot of pilgrims come there
杂志上说 because this was in magazines and
他们去看这个松树奇观 they come to see this miraculous pine event.
你们能看到真的有非常多的松果 You see that there is really tons of pine cones
修道院到处都是 人们来敬拜它 all over the monastery and people worship it.
这就是金属薄板建成的小路 This is the latten road，of course
上个周末我在忙着 Last weekend I was busy with
在加泰罗尼亚的一个花园的设计 designing a garden in Catalonia.
是一个非常简单的花园 A very simple garden,
是一个峡谷中漂亮的景观 it's in a beautiful landscape in a valley
从远处你能看到地中海 and far out you can see the Mediterranean the sea
这个花园项目的一部分是 and part of this garden project is
一个4米高的六角形的墙 其中 a 4 meters high hexagon wall to be filled with stones
填满了周围森林的石头 完成这用了一生 from the forest around, which takes an entire life;
这是个关于禅的项目 so the project is about Zen.
这个花园的主人 The owners of the garden
他们有孩子还有一条狗 they have children and a dog
每次他们到丛林去 and they go into the forest and
回来的时候就带几块石头放到六角形中 they come back with rocks and they fill the hexagons.
这就是一生能做的 This is what you can do in a life.
这同时还创造了美丽的阴影 It also creates beautiful shadows.
我没有拍下很好的照片 I don't have good pictures.
我当时在一边喝着饮料一边休息 I was much drinking and relaxing
想象如果你坐在这个院子里 Imagine if you sit in this courtyard
从这个六角形中看风景 you see the landscape through this hexagon.
这个项目的有趣之处还在于 The interesting thing of this project is that
这个项目让人们 it is a project that engages people to find rocks
到森林中找石头来填这些六角形 in the forest and to fill the hexagons and
有些还很有艺术感 some of it is even artistic.
看这个 主人家的人为一笔 Look at this. Anthropogenic touch of the owners.
成了工艺 So this is arts and crafts, maybe.
我想你们看一下一座 I would like to show a bridge
去年完成的桥 which was finished last year.
我们设计过至少4座桥的最初都是 We did at least four bridges which were
以构架的理念设计的 originally designed from the logic of a truss
但这几次我们都失败了 and every time we were not able to succeed
（如果能建造出来）它们都是非常壮观的大桥 (so finally)they are really spectacular bridges
所以我们最终残忍地决定 so we finally did it as a cannibalism to redesign
整个重新设计 建一个很简单的步行桥 the same thing, a very simple pedestrian bridge,
以此来表达设计理念 因为作为一个设计师 to demonstrate because as a designer somehow
如果你想到了一个好的设计 一个很美的理念 you feel impotent if you deliver a good design,
但最终没能建成 你会觉得很无力 a beautiful concept and nothing happens.
我们决定建一个步行桥 We decided to make this pedestrian bridge
一座很简单的一个扭转的桥 a very simple bridge with a twist.
至少这样设计能付诸建设 At least once you deliver.
我能做一个关于没能落实建设的设计的讲座 I can give a lecture about lost projects,
我想那也会不错 I think that is also nice.
但这些都是建成的 But these are all built projects.
这座桥被建成了 The bridge was tenured.
它横跨了大约50米的水面 It spans over water approximately 50 meters.
这座桥很有意思的事是 The interesting thing about the bridge is that
我们追求巧妙的设计 we are looking for subtlety,
想想这么做很容易 so you can easily think that you can do this
但不会是一个能落实的好设计 but that will not deliver a good design.
这儿我们能看到这座桥不是方的 Here we see the bridge is not square,
它是长方形的 it is a rectangle
中间扭转的部分较高 in the twist in the middle it is higher
所以在建造方面是可行的 so construction-wise it even makes sense.
它非常有效 It is very efficient
桥同外面的构架不是分离的 but the bridge is not independent from the skin.
拱形使得桥更加的巧妙 The arc makes the bridge a little more interesting.
如果你在桥上快速骑车 If you bicycle you go in speed in the bridge,
你的方向会改变 so you re-orient yourself.
当然这个理论不可行 Of course this theory did not work,
但这是一个理念 but that was the concept.
一般的桥是标准的 Half of the bridge was standard,
尽管这个桥是失败了 超支了50% even this bridge failed, it was 150% of the budget.
那个时候是在黄金时代 This was in the golden time when
每个人都想等着天上掉馅饼 everyone thought to make money doing nothing
要求很多的经费 而承包商 and demanding a lot of fees and the contractor,
他还搞砸了 我们当时 he messed up and we were really about to
真的就要把这座桥搞砸了 lose this bridge as well, 4 or 5,
我们最后解决了问题 and we solved the problem
使桥的跨度小了一点 to make the bridge span a little bit less
但我们没有时间了 因为土地的所有权手续出现了问题 but we had no time because the tenure procedure failed
还有很多的法律问题 and there were all kind of legal problems
你不能改设计了 because you cannot change the design
因为有人的价格更低 because someone has the lowest price.
你必须得听别人 You have to listen to those people
理解他们的想法 and relate yourself to them
没有时间重新设计桥了 so there was not enough time to redesign the bridge
最后出现了一个很有趣的巧合 and finally we had a very interesting coincidence here
把桥改短后 that by shortening the bridge
就做不到整个扭转了 the whole rotation couldn't be made.
你们能想象吗 Can you imagine?
所以桥的扭转会停止 So the bridge rotates but it stops.
再加上桥的拱 And together with the arc of the bridge,
这第二个不规则性让桥变得很性感 the second irregularity that made the bridge so sexy
我想这对我们很重要 and I think that is very relevant for us
如果我们分析这些项目的话 if we analyze these kinds of projects.
桥的这些部分很天真 You see here the sections the bridge is very optimistic
它开始像一个男孩天真的梦 it starts like a boy's dream straight up
然后它扭转 经历挫折 更加努力 and then it rotates and it suffers and tries hard
但它还是不行 最后它停止了 but it cannot and then it freezes itself
它的成果非常的出众 and the outcome of that is so remarkable,
你们看 我们缩短了桥 you see that we shorten the bridge:
一个难以置信的建筑玩笑 an unbelievable lousy architect joke.
这个妥协一般情况下是做不到的 This is a compromise you cannot do
但是我们不得不这么做 but we had to do it.
这是对于桥的无耻阉割 It's a shameless amputation of the bridge.
这就是最后的效果 令人难以置信 And this is the effect and this is so unbelievable
如果我去那儿的话 I am always happy that if I go there,
我总会去看看这座桥 I often go to see the bridge
就是去看看这座不能扭转的桥 just to see the bridge which could not rotate.
扭转的愉快之处 The euphoria of rotation
就在于栏杆 is also based on the Balustrade.
我们都爱上了这座桥 We fell in love with the bridge.
但我们又一次失败了 Then again we failed because
第二次 这座桥还建不起来 the bridge could not be built for the second time
而承包商 他想 and the contractor because he wanted to
去附近一个很贵的地方里边建 construct in a very expensive place nearby
因为已经是深冬了 because it was already late in the season
他们已经没法在外面建桥了 they could not make the bridge outside anymore
为此 我们免费设计了一个解决方案 and then we designed a free design as a solution
设计一个像你们学校一样的 大棚子 from containers like your school, a hangar,
一个临时建筑 来建桥 to build the bridge, a temporary building.
有趣的是 The funny thing is,
这个临时建筑非常的成功 this building was very successful,
对于我来说比桥本身还有趣 for me even more interesting than the bridge itself
承包商从它上面赚了不少 and the contractor made a lot of money out of this
因为他把它卖了个高价 because he sold this with a lot of profit
所以我们有了一个截肢的桥 so we had an amputated bridge
而且我们建的时候失败了两次 and we filled twice the delivery
这就是那个项目 and this was the project.
大棚子在草坪上 The hangar it is in the meadow lands
这是来自比利时的承包商 and there is a Belgian contractor.
一群很好的人 Wonderful people.
你们看 开始的时候很简单 You see how simple it starts
扭转部分看起来就像被弄坏了 and the rotation looks like almost wrecked.
喷漆是在冬天完成的 The painting was all done in winter.
我们又利用了很多工程步骤 把桥移到确定位置 A lot of engineering to move the bridge into position
放在水面 然后打开它 and to hang it over the water and to open it.
灯也很漂亮 Also the line of the lamps are very nice,
我觉得它真的很棒 I think it is really nice.
是座很棒的桥 It is a wonderful bridge.
我对这座桥很满意 Actually I'm very happy with the bridge.
它很漂亮 It is very beautiful.
这是我儿子 穿蓝衣服的那个 This is my son. The blue guy.
这是桥冬天时候的样子 So this winter the bridge was,
我们今年的冬天非常长 because we had a very long winter this year,
雪要下上两个月 for two months it snowed,
你们看这儿就是桥 you see that here the bridge is,
这很酷 this is really cool,
有种奇特的效果 it is a sort of strange effect,
你不清楚到底发生了什么 I mean you cannot understand what is going on,
我想这也很重要 I think this very important too,
我的妻子是一个演员 在剧院表演 my wife she is an actress, she plays in the theater
所有她的朋友都是演员 and all of her friends are actors
我所有的朋友都是建筑师 and all my friends were architects and architects
而建筑师都有追求的极致的倾向 they have a sort of tendency to create a sublime,
总很渴望创造美 they are really eager to create beauty, the whole thing
而演员却对于极致没有兴趣 And actors are totally not interested in sublime at all
他们都是有弱点的人 they are vulnerable people,
他们讨厌完美 they hate perfection, they are looking.
我妻子有一个装满了不同角色的盒子 My wife has a box full of characters of ticks,
她会给 she collects ticks,
奇怪 不一丝不苟的人做标记 where people are not precise, strange, odd.
我确实变年级大 我现在在变老 And the older I grow, and I'm getting old now,
就越对不完美感兴趣 I'm more interested in this imperfection
但这很复杂 你无法教它 but it's very complex, you cannot teach it,
或者练习它 它就像彩票 or exercise it, somehow it is sort of a lottery,
似在空中 it's in the air,
看得到 又好像看不到 or you don't see it, you see it
但我认为很重要的一点是 but I think it is very important,
你们得训练自己这么想 that all of you train yourself in these kind of things
它能成为一个工具 it could be a tool.
这儿你们能看到在冬天中的桥 So here you see the bridge in winter,
桥虽然（和原设计相比）是残缺的 the bridge is already impotent,
但这儿它好像迷失在寒冬中一样 but here it is completely lost in the cold:
没有人在那儿 nobody is there.
这是一个我们本来不想展示的项目 This is a project I didn't want to show.
这是在中国一个古老城市的园艺博览会 It is a garden festival in China in an old city.
我们想到了生命之路的点子 And we had a sort of idea about the path of life.
园艺博览会就是一个 A garden festival is a fashion show
景观建筑师和艺术建筑师的时尚秀 with landscape architects and art architects.
没有预算 And there was no budget,
它很大程度上是一种装置 it's more an installation like thing,
我们想到做生命之路的点子 we had an idea to make the path of life,
生命是一个负担 它穿过很多的河流 life is a burden, it crosses many rivers,
你会失去了你的方向 you lose your wind.
说真的 这在中国有很多 This thing, seriously, in China
他们有很多此类的哲学思想和历史故事 they have a lot of philosophy and history about it
生命之路是一条300米的小路 and the path of life was a 300m long path,
每次它同另外一条小路交汇时 which is every time crossing another path
你就得过一座桥 and you need a bridge to climb over it
然后就能找到出口 so you find the exit then
这样你就做了一个纪念式的 you have demonstrated a monumental exercise
关于生命的意义的实践 what life is about.
这儿你们看的是一个竹园 So here we see a bamboo garden,
这是那儿唯一长的东西 that's the only thing which grows there
所以用这个材料会很有益 so it is very helpful to use that material.
入口就中国其他地方的入口一样 The entrance like everywhere in China,
我们有很多中方的同事 we have some Chinese colleagues,
他们帮了我们很多 they helped us a lot in China,
中国的入口有一个入口的雕像 they have an entrance icon,
这些是鼓 these are drums,
他们说对于中国人来说 for every Chinese person they tell a story,
入口就是入口 entrance is an entrance.
如果你们看到这个就会自然走就去 So if you see this you automatically walk inside.
我们也用到这个 We took those as well, this is not
这不是很明智的点子 但我觉得 a very bright idea but I think it is very much
这利于沟通人类文化 和相互理解 dealing with our human culture and understanding.
让事情更简单 To make things simple.
人们进入生命之路 And then you enter the path of life
会看到许多的桥 and you see many bridges,
我们在预算之内设计了很多的桥 we designed a bridge which could fit in a budget.
我们设计桥的一半 We design half of a bridge
然后用混凝土把他们接在一起 and we put them together from concrete.
我们研究了很多拱形 很多中国的 We studied arches, a lot of theory in China
关于拱形和抛物线形的理论 about arch and the parabolic shape.
是否是一个完美的拱形 这很重要 Is this perfect arch? This is important.
我们设计了好几个 So we have several ones.
就是它们 Here they are.
它们是巨大的混凝土桥 They are massive concrete
上面有竹子的图案和中国红 with a texture of bamboo and then hypoxia color red.
这是我们在花园 At the moment we are building
造雕像 these icons in the garden.
扶手上面的花纹很简单 The rail detail is very simple.
这是一个介绍 This was an introduction.
你们有什么疑问吗? Are there questions?
你们觉得这不是一个讲座 但其实是个讲座 You think it is not a lecture but it is a lecture.
在还没调过时差的情况下 这对于我有点复杂 For me it is complex being jet-lagged
给你们介绍这些 but to share with you.
其中的犹豫 讽刺 幽默 不完美 The hesitation, the irony, the humor, the imperfection
但之后在酒吧里会变得清楚的 but it might become more clear afterward at the bar.
你们是很安静的观众 You are quiet audience, by the way.
我们在伦敦做了一个项目 We did a project in London.
在伦敦有一块地方有连栋的房屋 In London in an area which has terrace housing
在伦敦的很西面 一个很奇特地方 in the far west of London. A strange area.
和整个城市很脱节 Very much disconnected.
在附近有一个地铁站: Chiswick But a subway station nearby: Chiswick.
一个很有趣的客户 斯坦霍普公司 A very interesting client. Stanhope
这个只在伦敦工作的开发公司 A developing company that only works in London,
主要开发办公楼和商业区 mainly for offices, commercial space,
由一个梦想家Stewart Lipton先生领导 led by Sir Stewart Lipton, a visionary.
他想建一个 He had an idea to build a business park
令人出乎意料的商业公园 which was stunning
他将我们 理查德 罗杰斯和四五个聪明 because he put us, Richard Rogers, and four or five
思维敏捷的年轻公关人员聚集在一个房间里进行讨论 young and brilliant PR people in one room.
他们为他想到了 And they came with an idea for him that
这个商业公园的理念是 the concept for this business park was
最初来自于美国 Business parks are born in America
然后传到英国 then they brought it to England,
再从英国传遍整个欧洲 and from England to all over Europe.
斯塔霍普公司有 Stanhope had a idea to start
一个全新的理念 a new concept for a business park.
他们想到了 谢天谢地今天是周一 这个主题 These kids came with an idea: Thank God it's Monday.
制作了"开心去工作"的故事情节 So they made a storyline like Happy to Work,
以这个不可思议的方向 项目开始了 this kind of unbelievable direction, the project went.
理念就是建一个工作环境 The concept was to make a working environment
主要用于出租 有各种设施 which was mainly for rent with all kinds of facilities
例如日托 你可以把宠物寄放在那儿 like a daycare, you could take your dog over there,
他们能为你做任何事 they do everything for you,
他们可以为你买票 定机票 they buy tickets, they book flights,
有酒店设施 你还能有一个秘书 you have hotel facilities, you could have a secretary.
他们想让人们觉得 They had an idea to come to this place
这个地方住得舒服 食物好吃 有意大利大厨 where it is so nice to live, good food, Italian chef,
在旅游季的时候安排各种活动 we organize events everyday during the seasons,
还安排学校课程 we engage school classes,
这个理念是让人们想要去那儿 this concept became so you wanted to be there.
客户在一点上非常固执 And the client he was very stubborn
他一定要这个项目在一年内完成 to develop the project in one year
所以他想让我们设计 制作公关理念 so he had an idea we design it, we make a PR concept,
推广它 制作网页 we sell it, we create a website,
我们同 Richard Rogers一起建造了所有的大楼 we build all the buildings with Richard Rogers,
景观和安排布局 the landscape and layout by us.
所以我们能够打破成规 So we could think out of the box
想到了一个非常环保的故事情节 and there was a very ecological storyline
因为没有人喜欢商业公园 because nobody liked a business park.
在过去几年里 城市对于环境的严格要求 The city had in previous years made developers lives
让开发商们都不好过 really difficult with a checklist on ecology
几乎不可能完成的一部分 which was almost impossible Part of that
是在现场解决水的问题 was also water problems, to be solved on the site
这就是为什么他们找到了我们 that's why they called us
因为我们是荷兰人 because we were Dutch
荷兰人对水知道的很多 and Dutch know a lot about water
而我们让这个观点成真了 and we keep that illusion alive.
所以我们的想法就是建一个 So the idea here was to make a business park
不止是商务和办公楼的商务公园 which more than business buildings and office buildings
它更注重个人需求 it's more concept on individual demands,
同客户的要求直接相反 as a straightforward provocation to the client
我们想让每一扇公共场所的前门 we had in mind to make every front door
100%不受干扰 on the public space 100% no compromise,
不能有车 甚至不能有主管和经理 no car, not even the director or manager,
不能有任何东西在大楼前面 nothing in front of the building,
所以由 Rogers 设计的大楼 so the building became as a matter of fact
事实上是完全没有没有装饰的 a design of Rogers, completely sterile,
没有性别 完全中性的大楼 without sex, completely neutral building,
就像瑞士德国人 Norman Foster Rogers设计的 like Swiss/German Norman Foster Rogers
全铝玻璃一样 这就是 了 completely aluminum glass. That's it.
颜色范围是灰色和银色 Grey, silver are the color ranges.
他们会吸收景观的特点 They absorb identity from the landscape.
我说的对吗 Have I said it correctly?
所以风景就能触发些什么 So the landscape triggers something
因而大楼就仅仅是大楼 because the building is just a building.
所以我们想要在内部创造 So we had in mind to create a soft inner area
柔软而且巧妙的空间 which is both clever because it is the missing element
因为这就是乏味的建筑所缺少的元素 of the sterile architecture.
我一点儿也不反对这个建筑 I'm not against the architecture at all,
它在这儿更有吸引力 it was more effect over here but it also was very easy
但它也很能被英国人理解 to be understood by English
因为它温柔而浪漫 because it was soft and romantic.
我们必须在一年内 We had to deliver the garden, the park, buildings,
建完花园 公园 大楼等所有的东西 everything within one year.
有5个当地的社区会议 我们得 Five local community meetings, we had to ...
非常的乏味 维多利亚式的浪漫 it is very banal, it was born of Victorian romance.
公关的孩子们 他们找到一个 So the PR kids, they had access to
伦布朗式的服务 用来画透视图 a Rembrandt like services of renderings,
我们画完草图之后 交给他们 what we sketched the day after was brought back
他们就带回给我们这样的效果图 like this
我们的想法是 大楼里 and our idea was that all of the water
和大楼顶上所有的水 in the buildings and on top of the buildings needed
都得被净化 收集和储藏在两个池子里面 to be cleaned and collected and stored in two ponds.
有一高一低两个池子 There was a higher and lower pond.
我们说服了客户去买两辆火车还有威尔士石头 We convinced the client to buy two trains,of loads of Welsh stones
来建造瀑布 to build the waterfall.
加上火 With a fire,
晚上会有拉斯维加斯式的照明效果 with almost Vegas like illumination at night.
要建一个瀑布 你不能在那儿工作 To make a waterfall you cannot work there
不能在瀑布上 and not be on the waterfall.
太夸张 怪异了 It is bombastic, grotesque,
瀑布前面的设计 confrontation with the waterfall
也非常的美和浪漫 which is also nice and very romantic.
这是无耻的一个等级 It has a level of shamelessness.
我那时还挺年轻 这是有点过分了 I was younger then and this is a little over the top.
然后我们设计所有的东西用柏树 We then designed the whole thing in cypresses,
欧洲柏树 当然 European cypresses, and of course
英国人不吃这一套 the English didn't buy that,
英国人喜欢每一棵树都不同 the English love that every tree is different.
树必须都不一样 The trees need to be different.
你不能总是掌控你的设计 You don't always control the design.
我们试着让用还红花的植物 He we tried to make vegetation with red blossom.
我们尝试用红色的花卉构建植被 You have to buy red water lilies...very rare.
木兰 花等让所有的植物 Magnolias, Rondos to make everything
都是红色的温暖的 以此来抵销铝（带来的冰冷） red and warm as an anti-poison for the aluminum.
这是庙 Temples.
另外 柏树很巧妙 Also to add, why the cypresses were clever,
在欧洲它们是常青的 in Europe they tend to be very green....
在寒冷的冬天 他们又会落叶 in cold winter they drop all the leaves.
整个建完了 The whole thing is built;
这个广场我们设计了5次 we had to design five times a plaza,
最后它被设计成一个运动空间 并建成了 finally it was designed as a sport ground and realized.
你们能销售人员的方法 You see the approach of the marketing people.
他们有黄色的网页 和广告牌 They had yellow websites and billboards
甚至承建商都在黄色的屋子里工作 even the contractors they worked in Yellow cabins.
整个运作销售很成功 The whole operation sold itself.
这很有意思 It was very interesting.
那儿有一些香柏 但在中间部分 Some of the cedars are there but then in the middle
你们能看到它们落叶 很美 you see beautifully they lose the leaves, very nice,
但根据英国人的想法 but due to English preoccupation
我们必须把树木混在一起 we had a mix of trees which more or less
这或多或少让这个项目变得像个购物中心 makes the project like a shopping mall.
没有身份 或者个性 No identity. Or character.
但尽管如此 构想还是好的 But still the idea is bright enough to survive this.
我们在周围放上了花坛 We added pots in the area around
在有花的温柔的那部分 所有都用黑色 the soft part with flowers, everything in black.
石岛 很浪漫 有一个松树 The stone island, romantic, with a pine.
还有商业人士 一个很漂亮的世界 And business people. A Samsonite world.
这是一个人们真的 This is a business park where people do engage
接触景观的商业公园 他们坐在外面 with the landscape, they sit outside,
这在英国很难得 in England this is remarkable.
桥上的设计 很漂亮 Over-the top design of the bridge would be beautiful
这是木材拼接形成的马赛克的效果 and mosaic effect of the timber.
这是采石场 Here is the quarry.
在威尔士的西海岸 In the west coast of Wales.
我们采集了石头 建了一个瀑布 Where we gathered the stone and built a waterfall
来说服客户 to convince the client,
所以我们建了两次 so we built it twice,
把所有的石头照下来 编号 photographed and numbered all the stone
然后运到伦敦 and shipped them to London
在那儿重建 这个主意不坏 and there it was rebuilt. It's not a bad idea.
它现在更漂亮了 This is now more beautiful because the stones are
因为石头现在石头脏了 长面了青苔 full of green and they are dirty.
我们在依佛登参加了一个比赛 We did a competition for Yverdon.
瑞士在5个场地安排了世界博览 Switzerland organized a world expo on five sites.
有一个在依佛登 Lake Yverdon.
我们赢得了那个比赛 We won that competition.
我们的场地上需要有展馆 Our site which needed to have pavilions
但我们的理念是不用建筑 had a concept that there was no architecture.
我们用媒介和景观 We built the entire exhibition
建造了整个展览 from media and from landscape.
这是在活动场地上 This is on a sporting ground.
它是暂时性的 It was also temporary.
会被拆除 It needed to be dismantled,
只能存在一年 it could only stand for a year
所以我们用了沙砾和木头来建造 so we built it with gravel and wood and timber.
大部分的建造工作是有瑞士军队完成的 Most of the work was executed by the Swiss Army.
理念很简单 我们用花来做出丘陵 The concept was easy, we made hills with flowers,
作为一个荷兰人 爱花是在DNA里的 like a dutch, deeper, this is DNA.
改变不了 I cannot change it.
还有云 And a cloud.
就像17世纪荷兰画家的画一样 Like the paintings of the Dutch 17th century painters.
他们在设计 雕刻云上都很棒 They perform very well on designing, sculpting, clouds.
所以 云彩和郁金香 这就是荷兰式的景观 So clouds, tulips..that's the Dutch landscape.
但问题是 The question is:
你能在瑞士建荷兰景观吗 can you make Dutch landscapes in Switzerland?
那被背后的故事了 That was the whole story behind it.
我们赢得了比赛 We won the competition.
然后我们让??来设计云 Then we asked INAUDIBLDE to design the clouds.
他们在一定程度上改写了历史 They more or less re-write history,
但我们却让他们设计云 but we order them to design a cloud.
在湖里 In the lake.
这是真的 This is the reality.
每个丘陵都是花的组合 Every hill has a scheme of flowers.
有趣的一点是 And the interesting thing
当我们开始这个项目时 when we started this project we had in mind
我们想只让事务所的女同事设计这个公园 that only the women in our office design this park.
这个公园是100%女性设计的 This park is 100% woman job.
没有一个男的介入 Nobody from the other side involved in this.
这很有意思 This is interesting because
因为多年以来 we were for many years researching
我们都在研究 怎么让我们的大脑 how do we get from the brain
进入到更深层的感觉 into the more inner feelings as a sort of exercise,
我们就试了 如果让 we tried what will happen if
一半我们的事务所设计一个公园会怎么样 half of our office designs a park.
结果会是如何 这对于我们很有帮助 What is the outcome? It was very helpful for us.
这都是关于花和柔软的花茎的 This is all about flowers and soft scapes.
它建起来非常的漂亮 虽然只是暂时的 It is beautifully executed although it was temporary,
在每个丘陵里藏着一个展馆 in every hill there are pavilions hidden,
他们被大型织物覆盖 and they are covered with a truck textile
织物上面也是同样的花朵图案 with the same print of flowers on top,
由军方用木头建成 built by the military in the wood.
所以你们看到 黄色丘陵的展馆 So you see the hill with yellow pavilions
这是总体规划之一 and this is the part of the master plan.
至于场地的入口 As an entrance to this site
我们建了个公交车站 你们能看到我们的建法 we built a bus stop, you see how we build it,
用便宜的木头 预制好 测好角度 it's cheap wood, prefabricated, triangulated
由因为可能会被大风吹走 because the storm will take it away.
这儿的木头用来让这个构造稳定 The logs are here to keep the whole thing stable.
我们尝试不用建筑 We tried not to do architecture.
如果你设立一个方向 You give it a certain direction
就会变得很有趣 where it becomes very interesting
因为你会回避自己的解决方案 because you have to avoid your own solution.
像这样做很有益 It helps a lot to make it like this.
当然 这是为了比赛 And of course this is for a competition,
你可以做这些事情 you can do this sort of things.
这是一个临时的车站 This is the station building temporary...
一排花带领你到会场 天竺葵一路延伸 with a line of flowers bringing you to the site. geranium
然后你就到达展览会场了 Then you arrive on the expo site.
我们合作的瑞士设计师 The Swiss architects we collaborated with
用建筑建了一个展馆 made one pavilion with architecture
因为他们不想建在花里面 because they did not want to be in flowers,
他们想要建筑 they wanted architecture
他们设计的很好 我觉得 but they did a good job, I think.
你们看 这些丘陵和花 And you see all the hills and bombardment of flowers.
我很快的过一些 I do this very quick otherwise
否则你们了解不到效果 you don't understand the effect.
人们很喜欢同花接触 People really engage with flowers.
奇怪的一点是 例如我的祖母 The strange thing is like my grandma
她很喜欢花 she likes flowers a lot.
所以只要你用到花 她已经很喜欢了 So if you do flowers it's already okay.
这是另外一个试验 There's another experiment.
如果你用到很多的花 结果是惊人的 If you do a lot with flowers the result is stunning.
我们很多的同行 A lot of of our professionals
太拘泥于设计 they do too much design, I think.
地面上 是一个通道 由两个颜色的石头建的 On the floor there's an excavation of a tunnel made by
这样我们就能给这个地面上色 two colors of stone so we could paint the entire floor.
你们能看到 云朵的效果 You see the influence of the cloud.
这就是我们想到的理念 This is really the concept we had in mind.
有问题吗 Questions?
我本来不想讲多伦多的案子 但它在展板上了 I didn't want Toronto but it is on the billboard
所以我就介绍一下 so I have to do it.
罗伦多是个不同寻常的项目 Toronto is an unbelievable project.
是一个比赛项目 Toronto is the result of a competition
目的是为了达到湖滨一体化 for an identity of the waterfront.
我之后认为 The competition for this was also a reflection
这个比赛是一个对于芝加哥的反思 but this what I believe afterward. On Chicago.
芝加哥做得很好 Chicago did a nice job.
罗伦多是一个在北部的大城市 And Toronto is the other big city in the north
但多伦多同芝加哥完全不同 but Toronto has absolutely is differently wired.
芝加哥是个纸醉金迷又慈善发达的城市 Chicago is about money and philanthropy.
多伦都就像丹麦 人们都很友善 Toronto is like Denmark: people are really friendly.
很戏剧化 没有权贵 Very democratic. Nobody is in power.
什么东西都买得到 但什么决定都做不了 Everything can be bought but nothing can be decided.
它不坏 它就是多伦多 This is not bad but this is Toronto.
这和芝加哥完全不一样 This is completely different than Chicago.
多伦多人想要一个湖滨 They wanted a waterfront.
当然他们不知道湖滨要怎么样 They of course had no idea what it would be.
因此他们举办了这次国际大赛 so there was the international competition
你们看 多伦多城市和 Here you see how badly Toronto links to
湖滨的连接有多不畅通 the downtown waterfront.
船坞区 铁路 高速公路 等等 The docklands, the railroad, express highway elevated
而那个体育场就坐落在那里 and stadium sitting here with a tower in a sort of landscape
最近他们又建了很多的高楼 Recently they built a lot of skyscrapers
和公寓 and condominiums.
但简要来说 它唯一清晰想要传达的 But the only clear message in the brief
是可持续性 自然 清洁的水资源 安全 was sustainability, nature, clean water, safety.
这对我来说 和丹麦很像 This is really like Denmark for me.
是我们文化的最高点 The climax of our culture,
上帝用了5天的时间创造了这个星球 God created the planet in five days
在第6天 他创造了人类 and on the 6th day he created mankind.
他很高兴 在第7天他就休息了 He was so happy on the 7th day he rested
因为都做完了 because it was all done.
那我们是怎么做的呢 And this euphoria what do we do?
我们净化水 让我们的世界和平和谐 We clean the water. Peace and harmony.
合理 友善 Reasonably. Friendly. You konw, this kind of...
这不算 你们知道我在说什么吗 this does not count, do you understand what I mean
作为一个设计者 我对于 As a designer I'm intrigued by
让人有勇气的东西很有兴趣 what makes people tick.
如果他们要一个湖滨 If they want a waterfront and
又不想要一个一般性的河岸 我们怎么办 they don't want a waterfront, what do we do?
这很复杂 This is very complex.
我们想如果我们听他们的 We thought if we take their words and
只按他们说的做 do only their words and
跟他们说 这是你们写的 say this is what you write and
这个就是你们的得到结果 两者完全一样 this is what you get and it's exactly the same,
这可能是触发点 it might be a triggering.
这就是我们当时想的 That's what we had in mind.
我没开玩笑 I'm very serious in this.
想象一下 Norman Foster盖五栋高楼 Imagine that Norman Foster did five skyscrapers.
我们可能会输掉比赛 We could not lose the competition
想象一下 大家跳进一个 because everyone jumped in the lake with such
有着芝加哥的优点和缺点的湖 amazing Chicago related fantasy or nightmare.
你们马上就明白了 You immediately understood
评审团不会这么做的 the jury would not do that.
所以我们就是唯一一个 So we were the only ones.
我们事务所同当地一个事务所合作 Our office teamed up with a local office.
我们是唯一一个 We had the only team
没有这种先入为主的湖滨概念的团队 who had not this preoccupied waterfront waterfront.
这在一定程度上 很复杂 This is very complicated in a certain way
这个大道就是你能离湖最近的地方 This boulevard is the closest to the lake you can get.
我把它叫做大峡谷 I would call this the Grand Canyon.
很糟糕 It is a concrete in Toronto union, really terrible
在多伦多 风总是很大 人们不能出门 In Toronto it is always windy people cannot be outside
丹麦人 挪威人 俄罗斯人 他们都喜欢室外活动 Danish, Norwegian, Russian they are all outside.
但多伦多人不 Toronto people are not outside.
也没有树 There is no trees.
之后街道 车 和混凝土 There is a street car here over the concrete.
它就像地狱 It is like hell.
当电车通过的时候 你就像在机场一样 If the tram passes by, you are in an airport.
有巨大的回声 非常吵 It is really noisy and it echoes.
寒冷 刺耳 大风的影子 Cold harsh windy shadow,
在这条街上只有影子 There is only shadow in this street.
这些建筑里面有些历史很长 Some of these buildings have a remarkable history.
我们的想发是 可不可以把多伦多和水连接起来 We had in mind, can we link Toronto to the water?
就像加拿大人讲到他们的小屋一样 Like the Canadian talk about their cottage.
这些轮胎 前面的树 The tires, the foreground tree
很有意思 is a very interesting thing.
我们到那儿看到了景观 然后想 We went there to see the landscape and think about,
这片干净的水 what is this clean water?
平和 和 和谐 是什么 这是什么 Peace and harmony. What is this?
我上了两天的划船课 I had two days of Canoe lessons.
太有意思了 This is very amazing.
我是来自荷兰玩水长大的男孩 I am a water boy from Holland.
单人划船的 If you kayak or canoe.
船就是像这样的 Then the boat is always like this,
虽然我很擅长划各种各样的船 Although I'm a very good sailor, I'm in every boat.
但每次转弯的时候都是会弄湿 You get wet through because all the time you switch,
她教了我一个技巧 she taught me a trick where you rotate your hand.
你要转动手 然后在一边划桨 Where you paddle and steer in one stride.
这样对不对 Is this right or not?
我两天就学会了 Two days and I could do it.
我们去了博物馆 Tom Thompson We went to the Museum, Tom Thompson,
Seven学派 the school of Seven.
这些人在20世纪初 These guys went into the forest
到了树林 画下风景 in the early 20th century and painted the landscape.
信不信由你 那儿的每一个加拿大房屋和学校 Believe me or not, every Canadian house or school there
就是这些Seven学派 的日历和绘画画的一样 are these calenders, and pictures of the school of seven.
问一个加拿大人 自然是什么样的 Ask a Canadian, what is nature?
对于他们来说 这就是自然 For them this is nature.
自然的文化和人们对于自然的 The culture and understanding of nature,
理解和认识是由艺术家构建的 the perception is framed by the artists.
这很合乎逻辑 It is very logical.
太不可思议 你们得去看看这些画 Amazing, you have to go see these paintings.
他们做的太惊人了 It is really stunning what they did.
在欧洲 没有人知道这些画 In Europe nobody knows these paintings.
看这个 这是一棵白松 Look at this. This is a white pine.
Tom Thompson画过4 5次这棵松 Tom Thompson painted this pine about four, five times.
所以你能看到不同年代的树 So you can see it in different years.
我们去了档案室 We went to the archives.
我记得离这儿不远 This is not so far from here I believe.
我想让多伦多能够 I thought is there a chance we can link Toronto
以这种加拿大的逻辑同水连接起来 from this kind of Canadian logic to the water.
你们大概想认为我在吹牛 You might think that I am very banal bombastic guy.
我们花了一个月接触加拿大 This took a month to get close to what Canadians are.
我们设计了湖滨 We designed the waterfront.
用了一个很简单的方法 We brought a simple trick.
建了4 5个草坪 We created four or five lawns for the water.
所有的水岸都要种上 All of the waterfront should be planted with trees
又高又大的树 which are big and huge.
这样就必须要有空间供树根生长 So there is root space. Which is an effort
这是因为在多伦多 我们发现 to find in Toronto, because there is only root space
只有樱桃树 和当地社区的树 for cherry trees or reasonable local community trees,
加拿大的树木没有 instead of Canadian trees.
所以我们就人们说如果你们真的想要 So we told the people if you are serious with
绿色和湖滨 我们要用加拿大的树 例如枫树 green and waterfront we plant Canadian trees like Maples.
我们不直接种大树 但他们会自己长大 We don't plant them big, but they grow big.
我们做得很多 We don't do a little, we do a lot.
只用木头和花岗岩 We only use wood and granite.
我们用树做前景 We have foreground of trees,
这样可以挡风 which sheltered from the harsh wind
在夏天还能遮阳 and the sun and the heat in the summer.
至于木材 And timber.
这是东海岸的加拿大 This is very western east-coast Canadian American.
所有的家居甚至台灯都是木头做的 All the furniture even the lamp post in wood.
我们意识到 这很重要 And then we figured it out, this was also remarkable,
但我们去那儿 来了解加拿大人时 when we went there to understand Canadians,
在港口 总是两艘科学家乘坐的船 in the bay there were always two boats with scientists
他们整天都在抓鱼和测量他们 and they were catching fish and measuring them, all day
就是为了监控环境 这时一条梭子鱼 Just monitoring the habitat, and this is a pike.
梭子鱼很大意味着这儿的水质很好很干净 Pikes are big which means there is good and clear water
因为它们是掠食者 They are predators.
它们需要干净的水来捕捉其他鱼 They need clear water to catch the other fish,
所以如果掠食者很好 那就代表整体很好 so if the predator is okay, that is very good.
我们就整天跟他们乘船出去 So we went with them on the boat all day
以此来了解水 看看这条鱼 to understand the water and look at that fist.
港湾的修复是个大工程 And the restoration of the bay which is a larger program.
我们把海湾的修复纳入规划 We took the restoration of the bay on board.
这是我们做的一个草图 This is a sketch we made.
在浅水区 Floating shallow water area.
这样 在加拿大电视台的人 So a mesh with vegetation floating in the water
都能看到水中浮动的植物 to be seen by the people in the CN tower.
我们的设计 根据比赛要求 Our design, we did what the competition was about,
建立了一个地下水生态系统 to create an underwater habitat.
在之前的港口 To create artificial reeves,
建立人工河流 等各种生态系统 all kinds of habitat, in former docklands,
这样有益于稳定码头岸壁 which also helped to stabilize quay walls.
下一步就是 And the next step is to
在上面加上一些装饰 add a little glamor on top of it.
让人们明白 So people are understanding,
对水的投资在这里实现了 they understand the investment in the water is there.
过去的几年 当地投入了4千万加拿大元 Last years investment of 40 million Canadian dollars
用于净化水资源和生态系统 in clear water and habitat.
这么多钱就砸到水里了 The money is literally thrown in the water.
我们建了桥和甲板 So we create bridges and decks.
让人们知道下面还有东西 We start to perform that there is something underneath.
我们同当地事务所的生态学家 We work together with ecologists
一起工作 from the local office and the serious design.
让甲板在上面 We made decks on top.
市长立即提出了一个新的想法 And the mayor immediately ordered a new idea
在岸壁之上 用桥 to make the connectivity along the water over the quays,
沿着水面建立连接 crossing the slips with bridges.
因此我们建立木桥 So we designed wooden bridges.
木桥没有一个标准的版本 Is there a prototype wooden bridge is the question.
我们让每一座桥都不一样 We made all our bridges different
但细节部分又相同 but equal in detailing.
我们运用生态 木材 树 和花岗岩 We more or less create an identity from ecology,
创造了一种同一性 timber, trees, granite.
当然了 运用木头 Of course there is a reason
作为设计中的叙述是有原因的 to add narrative in the joint of the wood.
设计不只是一个模糊的想法 There is a lot of sympathy for design,
它让人有很多的认同感 it is not a dim idea only.
我们想把它带上一个层次 We are trying to bring it on a level that people feel
让人们内心能够感受到 from their inner, from inside their understanding
它是自然的 普通的而有有点不同的 and it is so natural and so common but
让人们能够理解 能够看到 with a small twist, people understand and can see it.
看这座美丽的桥 Look at this bridge. Beautiful bridge.
这很简单 但波浪形让它很美 It is very simple but the waves make it really nice.
再加上它下滑的一端 Together with the end of the slip.
有一个??来创造同一性 There is a ballet which creates identity.
每个下滑端都一12个 Every slip there are 12 of these.
它们各不相同 They are different.
城市通过桥梁 Literally the city makes an address
同水连接 to the water with these bridges.
最漂亮的是一个?? The most beautiful is a INAUDIBLE.
我们想把甲板 We had a mind to change the docks
变成一个给小朋友和残疾人 into a kayak and canoe area for children
划船的空间 and handicapped people.
不仅是要做一个好的设计 You don't make a fantastic design;
更是要给残疾人和小孩子们设计 you make for handicapped people and children.
这是我们的想法 We took that mindset.
这就是我们要做的 This is how we'll do it.
他们认为这是我们的工作 They really thought this was our job.
这是我们需要的 我们的身份感 This is what we need. This is our identity.
能有这样的对话很有意思 It was very interesting to have this dialogue.
而他们确实觉得有点被操纵的感觉 And they really felt a little bit manipulated
因为我们是外来者 because we are outsiders
而我们却告诉他们怎么做更加加拿大特色 and we tell them what to do as Canadians.
这很奇怪 就像病人受医生摆布一样 It is very strange like therapy.
我们把其中一个甲板区变成一个更温柔的景观 One of the docks we changed into this softer landscape.
把一个桥成了海狸的水库的样子 We made a bridge as a beaver damn
他们并不认同 and then they didn't buy it.
他们说 什么垃圾 我们不这么做 Bullshit we don't do that.
而我们觉得这是一个非常棒的设计 And we thought this was an unbelievable nice design.
如果你们能接受这个 我们可以放弃所有的桥 We could give up all the bridges if you can afford this
所以之后 我们太过分了 So then we went too far.
我们把阴影分布在下滑的一端 We distributed with all the silhouettes
用不同的方法 of the slip ends. We did them differently.
他们在甲板上想要有月光感的照明 They had an idea to have moonlight illumination
来制造一种地狱般的红光 on the deck to create a sort of hell with red light.
在加拿大不会用到绿色和蓝色的灯光 No green or blue lights in Canada.
我们真的寻找了 We really explored where is this,
多伦多特色的东西 what is the Toronto thing.
我们真的很接近了 We came really close
但有时候他们又会把我们推回去 but sometimes they pushed back.
但总的来说 就是我说的那样 But if you sum it up, it's what I said.
这就是林荫大道 This is what it was, the boulevard.
这是防护栏 A guard-rail.
有公路 It's a little bit highway.
这是嬉水的地方 This is where you celebrate the water.
这里我们的设计 There we designed.
我们的想法是 这很复杂 We had in mind, this is very complicated for this
因为在欧洲你这么做没什么 because in Europe you can easily do this
但在北美 如果有人掉下来 你就会被起诉 but in America you can be sued if somebody falls.
我们的设计让整个甲板 We made a design in which the whole deck
在冬天都有栅栏隔开 would be fenced off with a chain in winter.
所有东西都被设计用来覆盖表面 Everything is designed to coat.
它就在表面的边缘 It is exactly on the edge of the coat.
人们不明白这是怎么做到的 People don't understand how this can be done.
有趣的是甲板太平常了 The funny thing is these decks are so normal,
所以加拿大人马上认出了它 Canadians immediately recognize it,
它就像吸铁石一样 it's like a magnet.
所有人经过 会到甲板上 They do not pass without stepping on the decks.
每天甲板上都很多人 Everyday the decks are full of people.
很快成为了城市的热门话题 Immediately the talk of the town.
市长钻最后一个洞 The mayor drills the last hole.
他是个很妙的人 Amazing person.
有一处甲板是不规则的 设计为庆祝的区域 One deck is symco, which is a festival area
在湖滨的中心 in the heart of the waterfront,
完全没有逻辑性 which is totally out of logic.
所有人都想到那儿去 Everyone wants to be there.
它被围栏隔开了 人们就跨越围栏 It is fenced off and people step over it.
这是一个露天剧院 It's an amphitheater,
在脊梁的部分是一个划船的休息区 there is a boat lounge at the ridge
用了蓝色的灯 没有用红色 and a blue light instead of the red.
湖滨的最高处是议会 The climax of the waterfront will be parliament,
你得记着这个词 议会 you have to remember this word,
议会在东面远方 这个海湾前面 parliaments in the far east, this bay front.
将会有一个很棒的投资计划 There will be an amazing investment program
来净化石水 for stone water a clearance.
石水会被放到贮水池中 So the stone water will be in tanks,
缓冲然后沉淀 之后的步骤是 buffered and then it settles and after treatment
用阳光中的 和人工的紫外线 is with UV, sunlight and artificial UV.
我们想到了在码头里做这个贮水池 We had in mind to make this tank in the dock,
在这些木条中 in the strip, with timber,
用木材覆盖 木材或多或少 a timber cover and the timber more or less
会有一种单细胞生物的 sells the idea of the organic shaped
自然 原始的感觉 primitive one celled creature.
一个水的世界 A water world.
这个也会建 This kind of fantasy, this will be built as well.
我们建了一个更大的甲板 We built one deck which is larger,
现在市长总是在那儿 now the mayor he is always opening here,
你们看 设计蓝图被画在电车上 you see the master plan painted on a tram.
在城市中开 He drives through the city.
如果你在加拿大 你有一个蓝图 If you are in Canada and you have a master plan
那就把它放到一个适合的交通工具上 and you bring it on a perfect transport:
是个超级好主意 Super good idea.
人们马上就接受它了 Immediately people buy it
也知道了大家在等待的结果会是什么 and know this what we were waiting for
我们总这么做 and we always do it like this.
把所有的想法都被转化成 Every idea had to be decoded into
可行性 a world of reason ability.
多伦多加拿大人的思维模式 The Toronto Canadian mindset.
这对于我们自己 Which is very interesting for ourselves
思考如何设计很有意思 to think about what makes a design.
有些人认为 Some people believe that
设计师扮演的是中介人的角色 designers they are the mediators that
从上帝那儿得到灵感 they have the inspiration of God and they are
然后它分给别人 就像毕加索 distributing this to other people. Like Picasso.
我不这么认为 I really don't think it is like that.
如果幸运的话 你和别人有相同视角 You have a shared vision if you are lucky
你在团队中工作 and you work in teams and all kinds of
各种奇怪的想法会进入进来 strange emotions enter the game
你可能会被推回去 and you will be pushed back.
如果你追求不完美 If you are after the imperfections and
随意 和无确定性 the random ideas and uncertainties,
你就会得到很多 there are a lot of gifts
让巧妙的设计 which could bring amazing designs
能够在市长的预算中完成 in the budget of the mayor.
市长喜欢公共交通 The mayor likes public transport,
他关心残疾人和小孩子 he likes handicapped people and he likes children.
他喜欢自行车拥护者 He likes bike advocates.
当然我们考虑到了设施的预算 OF course we thought the budget for installation,
如果我们想要把设计作为一个设施的话 if we do the design as an installation.
在加拿大 没有人相信 Nobody in Canada believes that
滨湖大街可以没有车子 Queens Quay can be without cars.
让多伦多人放弃一条街 Torontonians give up a street,
不让车进去 这是不可能的 so no cars exist, that is impossible.
所以我们跟市长建议 为什么不建一个设施 So we told the mayor why don't you build an installation
在10天中展示 证明滨湖大街是可以 for ten days to demonstrate that Queens Quay could be
50%给车子 50%给自行车 和行人的 50% cars and 50% bicycles and pedestrians.
好主意 这人很聪明 Great idea. This guy is so smart.
他用政治的方式改变了人们的想法 He changed the logic in a political way.
我们一起完成了这个项目 We did the project together.
这儿你们能看到 Here you see for 10 days the boulevard was
大街上从来自南边的交通都没有了 all the traffic from the south lanes were gone.
在每个部分 都有一名警官 On every section there was a police officer
在十天中告诉人们该怎么做 for ten days telling the people what to do
什么不能做 and what not to do.
由市长支付 在设施预算之内 Paid by the mayor and from the installation budget
他按设计建造了 he built a design.
10天里 所有郊区的人们 And for ten days all people from suburban neighborhoods
带着孩子来 人们在大道上骑车 came with their children. Biking on the boulevard.
我们弄了一片天竺葵草坪 We had a piece of grass and a piece of geranium grass.
并不复杂 Not too complex.
多伦多星报在这条路上 The Toronto Star is on the strip
所以我们每天都是头版的报道和照片 so we had everyday front page articles and photographs.
我们的想法是 安排一个自行车活动 The idea was to organize a bike event and also
一个节日 让孩子们能够穿着奇装异服 a festival for children to dress strange
骑车 and to pimp your bike.
我们到警察局 With the police department we went for
要来了被偷的骑车 the stolen bicycles and all the stolen bicycles.
安排了一个更好的自行车停放架的活动 There was a campaign for better bike racks.
我想大家都 I think people hate the idea that
很讨厌在多伦多自行车很容易被偷这件事 bikes are stolen so easily in Toronto.
所以我们用被偷的自行车做了一个凯旋门 So we made an Arc DE Triumph with stolen bicycles.
就像德国军队 Where you could really like the tour
当年走过凯旋门一样 when the German military INAUDIBLE.
这个大门会让你自豪并且充满力量 This gate makes you really proud and strong
所以如果你骑车 so if you are a biker and
骑车通过这个由被偷自行车做的大门 you go through this gate of stolen bicycles.
看看这些人们 他们都在笑 Look at the people they all laughed,
他们真的就像英雄 they are really like heroes.
这是众议院的议长 她也来了 Here is the speaker of the house, she also came.
当然有花欢迎 With flowers.
在10天里我们让人们喜欢上了 For ten days we made Queens Quay
湖滨大街将来的样子 like it would be in the future.
现在我们正忙着弄加拿大花岗岩 Today we are busy with the Canadian granite.
几点了 What time is it?
现在场子有热点了吗 要停下来吗 Are we getting warmer here? Do we stop?
观众: 不要 Audience: NO
马德里 马德里是在拉丁世界的一个项目 Madrid. Madrid is a project in the Latin world.
这是马德里的市长 他叫加利亚东 In Madrid there is a mayor. He is called Gayadon.
是执政党派的市长 He is the mayor of the Party Popular.
右翼 天主教保守派 That is a right wing, catholic conservative.
半军事 Half military.
如果你了解西班牙历史 You can understand Spanish
你就能理解西班牙人 if you understand their history.
加利亚东是马德里的市长 And Gayadon is the mayor of Madrid.
他将会是下一任首相 And he will be the next prime minister.
他就像一个教皇 代表上帝 He is like the pope. He is representing God.
加利亚东就拿破仑 Gayadong is like that. Napoleon.
他被他的党派赶出来了 He was kicked out from his party.
他们不要他了 They didn't like him anymore.
大概是因为他太强大 了 Maybe because he was too strong.
他是个非常聪明的人 He was a very intelligent guy.
会说7种语言 He speaks seven languages.
读诗歌 He is reading poetry.
他来自一个古老的贵族 He is from the old aristocracy.
有很好的礼仪和传统 With all kind of good behaviors and heritage.
一个很有意思的人 A really interesting person.
他的想法是 He had an idea.
我要竞选下一任市长 I will nominate for being the next mayor.
我们党不再喜欢我 Although my party don't like me anymore.
所以那我就离开党 So I went from my party.
所以他得同时对付民主党 He had to battle against the democrats
还有他原来的党 and against the party.
当你要拉丁世界开战的时候要怎么做 What do you do when you battle in the Latin world?
你创造一个大型的基础设施项目 You create a big infrastructure project.
这完全同多伦多式的想法相反 It is totally un-Torontonian.
这就是马德里的逻辑 That is the logic in Madrid.
他决定要 And he decided himself to make it
建到23公里 twenty-three kilometers.
在一个任期内 That is eighteen miles of highway tunnels
建设18英里的高速隧道 in one period.
一个任期是4年 In one administrative period: 4 years.
当然如果要连任 And of course to win the next time
你必须在3年内就建好 you had to deliver in three years
因为在最后一年得让人们看你做了什么 because in the last year you have to see what you did.
这是加利亚东 This is Gayadong.
这条隧道是波士顿大隧道的5倍长 So he decided, This is 5 times the Big Dig in Boston, imagine
是五倍大吗? is this five time? and he decided
他的朋友是承包商负责承建 His friend is a contractor who got a job.
这其中的逻辑就是他们互相理解 And the logic is they understand each other.
他知道如果他承建的话 He knows they deliver and there will be no bullshit
就不会有资金不够 和计划失败的问题 about needing more money or the planning failed.
所以是有逻辑的 So there is a logic.
他们建了很多的隧道 And they built so many tunnels
但他们甚至不会设计隧道 they could not even design the tunnels.
所以当他们在里面建的时候 隧道两头对不上了 So when they built inside, the tunnels miss each other.
因为没有经过计算 Calculations had not been done.
在很多地方 隧道的顶塌了 The roof inside the tunnel collapsed in many places.
其中一个隧道在 One of the tunnels was stuck
一座中世纪桥的基座那里下陷了 in a foundation of a medieval bridge.
他们不得不撤回 建一个新的 They had to pull back and make a new tunnel.
在3年内 In three years,
完成了23公里的隧道 twenty three kilometers of tunnel was finished.
然后同他竞选的民主党说 Then the social democrats they campaigned against him.
看看他 他花了所有的税款 Look at him. He's spending all the tax money
在看看现在的马德里 and look how Madrid is now.
成立一个可怕的工地 It is a terrible construction site.
到处都是混凝土 太可怕了 It is all concrete. It is terrible.
在三年的隧道建设之后 After three years of delivering the tunnel
他决定在下个4年中 he decided he will build Madrid over the tunnel
他会在隧道市长建设马德里 for the next four years.
所以有了一个比赛 我们赢了 That was a competition. We won that one.
建了高速 The highways were built.
这是古老的皇宫 这是河 This is the old royal palace. This is the river.
这是马德里市中心 It's really downtown Madrid.
在河的两边是高速 On both sides of the river are two highways.
都是十字路口 看这里 With all the crossings. Look at this.
这是在欧洲的北美 For Europe a north-American,
你在欧洲很到看着这样的 you don't often see this in Europe.
这是在葡萄牙的一个高速 有六个车道 This is a highway in Portugal. It has six lanes.
面对皇家宫殿 Which is facing the royal palace.
通往里斯本的是一条非常旧的路 Uphill going to Lisbon is a very old road.
你们看 他们在这儿建了一个隧道 You see they built a tunnel here.
隧道有两层 隧道上面是一条林荫大道 And the tunnel has two layers. The boulevard on top.
我们设计总蓝图 We designed the master plan and
然后在比赛后的四年中落实建设 we had to deliver in four years after the competition.
在下一次竞选的一年之前 One year before the next election.
所有的景观 All of the landscape,
整个城市都得完工 all of the city needed to be stitched.
这就是这个项目 That was the project.
很不幸 我们赢得了比赛 Unfortunately we won the completion.
我们开始同一个22人西班牙事务所合作 We had to start an office with 22 people in Madrid.
一个来自荷兰的人 There is no way a man from Holland
永远也理解不了西班牙或者马德里 完全不行 will ever understand Spain or Madrid. No chance.
要通过官僚的 市长办公室 It is very complex to navigate a project
来造作这个项目 太复杂了 through bureaucracies, patrimonial, the mayor's office.
唯一有意思的事就是 The only really interesting thing was that
加利亚东想要建成 Gayadong wants to deliver.
所以大家目标是相同的 So everyone who stands in his road.
作为设计师 我们得有这样的理念 As designers we needed a philosophy that
我们得让我们的设计和细节 we need to deliver designs and detailing
能够即刻被承建商理解 which could be immediately understood
然后发展到这儿 by this contractor. And then brought there.
关于承建 有趣的一点是 The funny thing is, about contracting,
我说这个是因为很多学生 I tell this because a lot of students
不知道这些事 don't know these stories.
平时都不是这么说的 Not often is it told like that.
西班牙现在金融危机很严重 In the crises which is now severe in Spain.
因而有了一个新的国家法 There is a new national law that
规定 所有政府的 有税收支付的 all infrastructure projects by authorities,
基础设施项目 必须在市场上 paid by tax money, should be brought on the market,
分成小模块由地方承包商竞标 tendered as small packages, with local contractors.
在半年内建成 Delivered in half years.
所以必须保证花下去的钱 So they need to guarantee that the money spent
能立刻带来就业机会 immediately produces labor.
如果你不能保证 If you cannot prove that
能带来就业机会 那就不能花钱 you produce labor you cannot spend money
就没有钱了 so there is no funding.
所以这个承包商得把所有的工作 So this contractor had to distribute all of the work
分配给200个承包商 over two hundred contractors.
所以我们现在得同 So our office is now delivering designs
200个不会读图承包商以及落实设计 for 200 contractors who don't read drawings,
相互合作 they don't work together,
在地球上没有任何人 there is nobody on the planet who could ever
能够成功同200个承包商合作一个项目 manage 200 contractors working in one project.
完全没可能 No chance.
他们都同承包商合作 And they all work with contractors as well
一方负责树木 and one is putting in the tree and
和具体的建筑设施 这太不可思议了 concrete building installation, it is unbelievable.
它就像个马戏团 很有趣 It is a circus. It is great.
承包商每天建10米 The contractors they deliver 10m a day,
所以逻辑就是他们告诉我们事务所 so the logic is they tell our office
周一我们需要这个和那个 Monday we need this and that.
然后我们再进10米 And then we are 10m further.
我们22人做不到 We cannot make that with 22 people.
所以我们只能深吸一口气 准着这个工作 So we breath deeply and run after the work.
我们的设计变得一天比一天简单 Our design everyday became more simple and simple.
这是真的 但他们建了 Seriously. But they deliver.
这是在葡萄牙的隧道 This is the tunnel in Portugal.
我们用了葡萄牙人来建着设个项目 We took Portuguese people to deliver the project here,
分包商 他们负责葡萄牙的石头工作 sub-contractor and they make Portuguese stone job.
漂亮的镶嵌花 Beautiful mosaics.
林荫大道有5英里的长椅 With a boulevard of 5 miles of benches.
让人们随时能座 西班牙人喜欢坐在外面 Seating element. Spanish people sit outside.
从葡萄牙运来的石头 Stones fresh from Portugal.
看他们会容易就把锦砖就做好了 See how easy they make mosaics.
有人在沙子里画画 Somebody drew in the sand and
另外的有人画轮廓 somebody else make the outlines
然后填充 很简单 and then they fill it. Very simple.
这就是结果 This is the result.
这是第一次同加利亚东合作 Exactly this is the first project in time with Gayadong
他在这人群中 He is crowd surfing here.
加利亚东是在中间的 在打电话 Gayadong in the middle he is talking to his cellphone.
他在皇家宫殿前面演讲 He gives a speech in front of the royal palace.
当我们开始这个项目时 Because when we started the project we were ordered
他们让我们拍了22张皇家宫殿的照片 to make 22 photographs of the royal palace
大道必须在这儿 and the boulevard needed to be here
加利亚东得在那儿 and Gayadong needed to be there.
所以我们画了一个有故事情节的画 So we did a drawing with a storyboard.
在市里没有人 There was nobody in the municipal.
通风井原本就在那儿了 The ventilation shafts were already there
所以我们覆盖上了陶瓷 so we cladded ceramics.
这是通道的入口 最上层 You see the entrance of the tunnel. The top layer.
下一个项目在公园 在一年之后 The next project was the park, one year later.
加利亚东也得被拍下来 Same story with Gayadong needing to be photographed
在皇家宫殿前面 in front of the royal palace.
由于 All the projects near the Royal Palace need to go first
所有在皇家宫殿的项目必须得先做 because of the backdrop picture.
我们设计的大型的树木种植计划 We were designing a massive tree planting strategy.
我们用了十种树 You see we made ten species and we almost put them
把它们放在一个已有小溪周围 in the ground with an existing stream which is
大部分时候有一个干涸的小河通过 most of the time a dry river meandering through.
我们没时间再想一个新的设计了 We had not time to think about a new design.
我们就从树开始建 We just delivered the design by the trees.
从欧洲各地买树 We had to buy trees from all over Europe.
这是我们的另一个同事 And this another of our colleagues.
我们根据树木种植的方式 We made the design more specific due to the fact that
做了更细化的设计 the way they were planted.
这个很有设计感 That was I think a very strong impression.
溪流在流入岩穴 The stream ends in a grotto.
这全部都在隧道上里 It's all on tunnels.
工作很不容易 So you cannot easily do a job
因为总是会有一个1米或者半米的隧道 because always there are 1m, half a meter tunnels,
或者公路在下面 highways underneath.
这就桥 This is a bridge.
加利亚东在那儿走 You see Gayadong walking there and there
在水前开始 he opens in front of the water.
由于工程建设 河里没有水 No water in the river due to the construction.
他现在面对的是皇家宫殿 So he is facing now the Royal Palace.
这是宫殿 And there you see the palace.
围栏是之字形的 The fence design: zigzag.
一年之后 第三个项目 The third project, the year after.
沿着河流的高速 A highway along the river
上面是松树林 with a pine forest on top.
我们想从山上买松树 We tried to buy pines from the mountains
就是那种通常植树员 which where normally the nurseries
会扔掉的 throw away these pines
长得不笔直的松树 because they are not straight.
舞动的松树 Dancing pines.
我们用到斗牛武器的设计理念 We designed from a logic of bullfight weapons.
钢铁的支撑 A supporter. In caste steel.
很性感 Really sexy, I believe.
它支撑所有的树 It is supporting all the trees and then
从意大利 荷兰 丹麦 西班牙 法国 from Italy, Holland, Denmark , Spain, France
运来树被种下来 pines are planted.
它们大部分不是笔直的种的 Most of them are not straight planted
所以他们在隧道上面东倒西歪 so they are already falling apart on top of the tunnel.
立刻 人们开始强烈的抗议 Immediately there is a massive attack of people.
西班牙人游行 表示不满 The Spanish people they parade and they show-off.
这是非常流行 非常简单的设计 It is very popular. Simple design.
我们这是在 Now we are starting
一座11世纪桥的前面开工 at the start of a 11th century bridge.
在河上做一个?? To make a INAUDIBLE at the river.
你们能看到有很多的高速路 You see how many highways and things are here.
它们都会在隧道里 我们会设计这个 They will all be in tunnels and we will design this.
我们修复了一个在宫殿附近的古老的桥 We restored an old bridge near the palace.
我们用一个老的高速桥剩下的部分 We built pedestrian bridge of the
做了一座步行桥 remnants of one old highway bridge.
使它不至于被拆毁 We saved it from being demolished.
这是这座桥 You see the bridge.
是个很好的项目 This is such a good project.
然后我们设计了5座 Then we designed five concrete bridges
同等的混凝土桥 在预算之内 which are equal. So they fit in the budget.
它们的理念是要有侵略性 They stand the logic of aggressive,
的招标程序 tendering procedures. We designed a bridge
我们受到鲸鱼的启发设计了一座 which is inspired by a whale
非常的肥大 笨重的桥 建筑师讨厌这样的设计 which is very fat and heavy. Architects hate it.
桥是混凝土的 黑色的 The bridge is concrete and bold and it will be
建成后会很黑 很脏 不完美 black and dirty and imperfect.
距离河面50米 This shell which is 50m over the river.
一座步行桥 A pedestrian bridge.
在外壳里面是金色的 像法老那样 This shell, inside is gold. It glooms like a pharaoh.
你们能想象吗 这个非常有感染力 Can you imagine? So it is very sentimental.
会制造一个很好的氛围 There is a sort of good vibe.
这个桥本来建不起来 So this bridge could not be built
但我们不停尝试 终于 but we pushed and pushed and finally
他们找到一个这个价格能做的人 they found someone who could do it. For the prize.
我们的想法是让这这些桥 We had in mind these bridges are
分成六个部分预制好 prefabricated in six pieces.
但只用北非劳力的 But the contractor who built it
承包商 works only with north-African labor
不想预制 and he did not want to prefabricate
然后再建 预制 and he built it. The logic of prefabrication.
然后重复 And then repeating.
我们在一个很复杂的世界中 We are really in a complex world that you
你有很天才的想法 have genius ideas sand it is completely
但结果完全向另外一个方向发展 going in the other direction.
但这没关系 还得继续 But it doesn't matter. You carry on.
这是我们正在跟他们说 So you see we were telling them
因为他们技艺纯熟 because they built it with craftsmanship.
这些洞都很完美 The holes were perfect.
很棒 很漂亮 They are so nice. So beautiful, so that
以至于我们想法中的粗犷 野性 our idea of boldness and brutality and
那种厚木头钉钉子的感觉 没有了 nails in the wood and planks would flip.
木匠们讨厌做粗糙的工作 The carpenters hate to do a lousy job.
这是我们学到另外一件事 So that is another thing we learned,
你有很多的想法 但它们都行不通 you have a lot of ideas but it doesn't work.
我们最后的一个问题 Then the last problem we had,
这个想法都被加利亚东接受了 this whole idea was sold to Gayadong
因为去找了 Prada博物馆的馆长 because we went to the curator of Prada museum
让他帮忙找艺术家 to ask him to select artists
同这些艺术家交流 and to go with these artists
他们喜欢加利亚东 and they like Gayadong and
他们说 好 这是我们的项目 they say yeah this is my project.
所以加利亚东订了这些桥 So Gayadong ordered for the bridges
Prada安排了艺术家 and Prada curated the artists.
你们能看到 桥的设计的变化 You see the bridge design evolving.
这儿你们能看到没有建的6个外壳 Here you see the six shells which are not built.
以及400 500个网线 And the 400 or 500 wires,
我们最后大概用了200个 we had approximately 200 in the end.
网线之间的距离太远了 The distance between the wires is too large
所以我们还得设计一个围栏 so we had to design a rail, unfortunately
为了设计围栏 and we were busy for about four months
我们忙碌了4个月 to design a rail which is now
先做的设计非常有设计感 extremely hysterically designed,
非常的平滑 super slick and this is really like
你们可能不能理解 you cannot understand how
就像保时捷 this is almost like Porsche.
每个弯曲的地方都是铝覆盖 Every curve encased in aluminum,
很棒 不是吗 isn't that great?
然后在河上建桥 Then the bridge is built in the river.
他们建了脚手架 然后不用甲板 They built scaffolding and built a bridge
建了一座桥 without deck.
不可思议的工作 Amazing job.
这是灯亮后的样子 This is when they light up.
混凝土最后很规则 The concrete comes out pretty regular.
一般情况下 他们必须一次性充满这个模具 Normally they have to fill the whole mold
因为他们晚上也不停止施工 in once because they cannot stop working
一个很壮观的项目 they were also at night, spectacular project.
这儿你能看到 桥一点一点的建好 Here you see the bridge born.
很有趣 ??? Interesting ...INAUDIBLE....
这是故意为之的 that was also on purpose.
这座桥能同人交流 This bridge communicates.
同人们对话 There is a dialogue with people.
你们会向做这样的事 You want to do these kind of things.
我快速地过一下 I go quick here...
我们这是在解决 We are here solving details
承包商不能掌控的细节 which could not be controlled by the contractors
用铝 with aluminum elements.
这是现在桥的样子 And this is what the bridges are today.
他们正在做最后的工作 放上围栏 They are finishing the job. Putting the rails.
我们设计了 gabali 野猪 For the filling points for the concrete
在混凝土的灌注处 we designed gabali, it's wild pigs.
所有的灌注处都 All the filling points are....
艺术家讨厌金色 他说绝不能这样做 then the artist he hated gold. He said it is no way.
他是 Prada的总监选出来的 He was selected by the director of Prado
所以我们不能忽视他 so I could not get him from the job.
同他合作的结果事 So we worked with him and the final result is
一个壁画 他想要用照片来做这些 a fresco. He wanted to do these with photographs
我们最后说服了他用瓷砖 so we pushed him in the direction of tiles
因为这更有西班牙风味 而且可永久保存 because it is much more Spanish and lasts forever.
修道士用大头针制作这些画 Monks make these pictures with pin sets,
很棒 不是吗 isn't this a great job?
这是你们如果在马德里会看到的 This is what you see if you go to Madrid
你们会经过 you should pass by.
它很脏 但很亮 It is very dirty but it will be really bright,
蓝色和粗糙的混凝土之间 the blue is not enough in contrast
未能构成足够鲜明的对比 with the rough concrete.
我最后说一个在美国的项目 I stop now with a project in America.
在迈阿密 Which is in Miami.
我们很高兴能给新世界交响曲工作 We are happy to work for the New World Symphony.
它是一个组织 Which is an organization, which is
是一个面向音乐家的音乐学校 a music school for musicians.
他们是美国最好的 They, with a private fund, the best of
有一个私人基金 找到了 Frank Garry what Americans are after, ordered Frank Garry
来为他们建新校园 to build a new school.
一个2亿美金的学校 As a school of about 200 million dollars.
非常漂亮的设计 Beautiful design.
这是一个盒子 鞋盒 里面是?? There is a box, a shoebox and inside it is INAUDIBLE
所以这并不是一个传统的Frank Garry的作品 so this is totally different Frank Garry.
这个从外面看是一个属于男孩子的楼 It is a boy's building outside
但里面有很女性化 非常不同寻常 and feminine building inside. It's remarkable.
这是门廊 This is the atrium.
我们想要一种镶嵌感 We were looking for a mosaic quality
因为公园非常小 because the park is very small,
2公顷 而客户和市民认为 it is two acres and the client and the city
公园就是你玩飞盘 think it is a park where you play Frisbee
野餐和办活动的地方 and picnic and events.
但这需要很多的园艺技巧 But it is more garden skills
所以我们遇到了很多的问题 so we had a lot of problems.
我们的构想是 We were fantasizing about
种植热带植物 working in the tropics, vegetation,
城市需要一个能够经受得住飓风的公园 and the city demanded a hurricane resistant park
这就意味着我们只能种?? which means we can only plant INAUDIBLE
这是棕榈树的一种 能够经受得住大风 which is a sort of palm tree which can withstand wind.
我们同植物园合作 We worked with a botanical garden
来选择植物 我很开心 to select these plants. Actually I am very happy.
因为我们有个项目 Because now we have a project which is
是非常的细瘦的树 看起来就像华盛顿扇叶葵 very thin tree which is like a watching Washingtonia.
但不高 But not so high.
它非常优雅 不完美的树干 It has very elegant imperfect trunks.
我们认为 在那儿种200到300棵树 We believe that by planting about 200-300 there
可以成为一个遮掩 will be a veil.
当你穿过公园时 If you walk through the park
你能从一个不同的方式看到大楼 you will see the building in a different way.
大部分的钱 The biggest money is spent on
花在了世界一流的设备上 world class projection equipment
大楼有一个很大的投影屏幕 so the building is a huge projection screen.
表演在里面 And a performance is inside,
外面全年都是 all kinds of artistic movements will be all year
各种艺术活动 on the facade.
我们设计了镶嵌式的有图案的地面 We designed a mosaic floor with patterns and
这些图案让镶嵌感上了一个层次 in the patterns it joins a new level of mosaic quality.
盐岩混凝土 很便宜 Rock salted concrete, very cheap.
但真的有铜绿的效果 But really the effect of patina.
我们尽可能多的种树 使有树荫 We plant as much as we can so we get shade.
我们必须?? We have to make a clear INDAUIBLDE
屏幕的几条线 few lines for the screen.
这是地形 Here you see the topography,
这个绝缘的地形 the insulating topography creates
让公园一种更强的梦幻感 a stronger illusion of park and
长椅会被四散在公园中 benches will be integrated in this topography.
这个公园大部分地方都有树荫 The park will be a shading mainly.
到处都是树荫 Shading, shading.
迈阿密人渴望阴凉的地方 People in Miami they are really craving for shadow
这个在迈阿密海滩的中心 and that will make in the heart of Miami beach,
接近 Arbazzo和林肯路 close to Arbazzo and Lincoln Road
它是最成功的公共空间之一 which is one of the most successful public spaces.
我们会营造一个新的城市肌理 We'll stitch a new urban tissue.
还需要有阴影的建筑 The shade also was demanded by shading structures
所以我们设计了凉亭 so we designed Pergolas.
最后 我们用九重葛 We finally with bougainvillea
加上拱形 做出竹篮状 we created baskets which work together
非常的坚固 只用了一点材料 with arches, so strong that with a little material
就能经受飓风 we could stand the hurricane and
这是结果 this is the outcome.
他们像云 They are more like clouds.
大约20英尺高 They are about 20ft high.
大家都喜欢它 所以我们想可能会有大问题 Everyone loved them so we expected big problems
因为它过度设计了 它只能作为设计被争论 because it was over designed, it could only be argued
但人们喜欢它 as design but people liked them
但之后我们被媒体猛烈的批评了 but then we were heavily criticized in the press
因为人们能爬上去 that they could be climbable, so we designed
所以我们设计了各种让它们不可攀爬的方案 all kinds of solution to make them not climbable;
例如 这个是用滚动条 this is for example with roller bars.
这个用刺 很不可思议 This is with thorns. Amazing thing.
如果你把手放在有叶子的植物上 If you put your hand in a bougainvillea
你就会出血 you are completely bloody.
美国的法律系统对于我们来说太复杂了 The American law system is very complex for us.
所以我们设计了围栏 这是香蕉剥皮的效果 So we had fences, this is a banana, peeling effect.
我很喜欢它 但他们讨厌这个设计 I quite liked it. And they hated it.
然后我们就做成了一个有很粗圆柱 Then we made a solution with a bench
在下面的长椅 with fat column underneath,
但问题是你们明白的 the problem you will understand
如果去掉垂直的部分 if you take out the verticals,
结构就会倒塌 the thing will collapse.
建筑就不受控制了 The construction will go wild.
所以最后我们引入了对角线 So we finally introduced diagonals.
找了很久 It was a long search.
把它们树立起来 就会让它们更有机 By beefing them up we could make them more organic.
看 这个是更加工程化的 这个是更有机的 See this is more engineered and this is more organic.
这是我们现在的设计 This is where we are now.
然后我们得去设计审查委员会 Then we have to go to the design review board.
这是大楼 This is the building.
巨大屏幕 Huge facade. It is gigantic.
这个屏幕有天晚上测试过了 The screen had been tested one night.
室外活动非常复杂 Outdoor events are very complex and
我们美国最好的声学工程师合作 we worked with the best acoustic engineers in America
因为学校的历史 他很在乎音乐 because the director of the school, he is about music,
所以声音的质量要非常的好 so the quality of sound needed to be super.
超越你我能够分辨的程度 Beyond what you and I can ever distinguish.
这就是它的样子 This is what it looks like.
他们想要用公园的理念 这些人?? They wanted to steal our park, these guys INAUDIBLE..
就像鲸鱼的骨架 ...like a carcass of a whale.
我们用到了为迪斯尼工作的团队 We even had people in the team who worked for Disney,
他们是专业的设施隐藏者 who are professional installation hiders.
因为在迪斯尼你从来看不到设备 Because in Disney you cannot see installation,
你看不到 但它们就在那儿 you don't see it but it's all there.
扬声器 摄像机 照明 Speakers, cameras, illumination.
这里来自佛罗里达的 There is a profession in Florida of people
专业隐藏设备的人 who hide installation.
他们完成的非常好 They did such a great job INAUDIBLE...
??一个中性的建筑元素 a neutral architectural element which stand the storm
能够抵御风暴 保护设施 and protect all the installations are in there.
最后是投射塔 The last thing is a projection tower
由于光束很多 它变得越来越高 which grows and grows because the beams are so massive.
我们在投射塔上 We start to wrap pergola related details
包裹上与凉亭相关的细节 around the projection tower.
我在这儿停一下 I stop here.
你们看 你进到这个对大楼 Do you see, you enter the park with the veil effect
有遮蔽作用的公园 当然真实的很棒 towards the building, of course the reality is nice.
这是在测试遮蔽效果 树木的密度 This is testing the effect of veil, the density of trees.
这是重复吗 我不知道 Is this the repetition? I don't know.
这是另外一个 This is another one.
你们看这些边 非常漂亮 You see the edges, beautiful.
想象小路是白色的 草是绿的 Imagine the path is white, the grass is green,
碎片的镶嵌效果 the patch work is mosaic quality is really there
但在图上看不出来 but not visible in the drawing.
景观建筑 这个问题 Landscape architecture is the question.
一个有趣的事是 哈佛大学设计学院杂志 The funny thing is I was asked to write an essay,
邀请我写一篇论文 for the Harvard design school magazine.
关于这个问题 About this question.
我认为景观建筑 I believe that landscape architecture is very much
同文化的关联很大 就比如 culturally related, for example,
人类对于自然的渴望是根深蒂固的 people, homosapiens, are very strong rooted in nature
这点不可忽视 and you cannot ignore that.
我们是猴子 我们忍不住 We are monkeys. We can't help it.
我们有4万多年的进化过程在血液中 We had 40-000 years of evolution in our cells,
而奇怪的是 and the strange thing is that
这种对于自然的呈现 对于自然的理解 this occupation with nature, how you understand nature
不同文化是不同的 is very much culturally made.
例如 日本人看待自然的方式 Japanese they totally distinguish themselves
同欧洲人就不同 how they see nature with English people, for example.
我认为景观的问题 I think the problem with landscape
同建筑是不同的 is different than architecture.
景观艺术是精神上的 Landscape art is a mentally,
我在多伦多的项目中解释过 what I explained about Toronto.
我认为加拿大人对于自然的部分理解 I think part of Canadian understanding of nature is
是基于 there is an idea, a mighty nature
20世纪绘画的 which was painted in the 20th century and that is
那就是他们认为的自然 what they think is nature.
美国认为自然是野性的 Americans think about wilderness.
荷兰人创造自然 Dutch they create nature.
德国人很少接触自然 Germans don't touch nature
因为他们同英国一样 认为自然是神圣的 because nature is holy like for the British.
要根据这个创造 It is very complex to distinguish identity
不同景观建筑的身份感很复杂 for landscape architecture due to this.
对于我来说 荷兰景观就是要创造 For me as a Dutch landscape is to be made,
自然在你手中 你能创造它 it is here in your fingers, you can make it.
这点非常的荷兰 Which is very Dutch.
这使得我 在我们早期的设计中 It brings me, we had our early designs,
有些作品人们觉得我们很有想像性 some were received like we were fantastic
很有创造力 这让我我很惊讶 and so out of the box and I was astonished
因为对于我来说 这就是荷兰 because for me it was very Dutch Dutch.
我只是做了我们平时做的 I though we just do what we always do.
它不是现代什么的 This is not contemporary, or whatever.
我们从荷兰的视角 We brought nature and landscape
创造自然和景观 from a Dutch perspective.
在美国这被看作是前卫派 In America this was seen as Avant Gard.
我觉得这个和农民更相关 I though it was more farmer related.
这是景观设计很有意思的一点 This is the funny thing about landscape architecture.
在现实中要更微妙 Things are more subtle in reality.
多伦多的项目是一个很好的例子 The Toronto project is a good example
我们同加拿大人一起研究 with research together with the Canadians
找寻一个没有人能解答的东西 for a thing nobody could answer.
但是循序渐进地我们得到了一些 But step by step we're getting somewhere.
这只有跨文化才能得到 This could only be born from a cultural cross-over.
它不是外来的 它也不是加拿大的 It is not alien and it is not Canadian.
但它让人们满意 But it very much satisfies the people.
这个芝加哥不同 It is different from Chicago.
你可以通过漂亮的艺术 You can buy people's hearts with beautiful art
出色设施 and impressive installations.
让孩子们能够加入 You can engage children.
多伦多项目是完全从另外一个角度 The Torontonian project is from a totally other angle
它给了人们一个认同感 and it does give the same identity for people.
他们能够认同它 They identify with it.
我们之前预见不到这个 We could not have foreseen this.
学生:一些你们早期的作品 Student: Some of the earlier work
比如岛上隧道 like the Island Channels,
设计了生态情景和杂交 dealt with ecological scenarios or promiscuity.
有什么新的项目 Are there are new projects
也涉及多产这些问题吗 where you're dealing with fertility and those issues?
我们完成了同威廉??的一个项目 We just finished a project with William INAUDIBLE.
我参与了一个阿姆斯特丹的房屋建设计划 I was in a huge housing project in Amsterdam.
一个湖的扩建 An extension in the lake.
这些很有意思 I think these things are interesting.
我今天没有展示 I didn't show them today.