大家好 我是珍妮特·布朗博士 Hello, I'm Doctor Janet Brown
我们在利伯缇大学的校园里 and we're here on the campus of Liberty University
在被称作大厦的建筑背后 right behind what we refer to as The Mansion.
之前这里是法威尔博士的办公室 At one time it was Dr. Falwell's office.
它的正式名字是卡特·格拉斯大厦 It's official title is the Carter Glass Mansion.
我们在利伯缇大学美丽的校园中 We're in the prayer garden
的祈祷花园中 on the beautiful campus of Liberty University.
今天请到了史蒂夫·安德斯探员 And I'm here today with Investigator Steve Anders.
史蒂夫·安德斯探员是一位资深探员 Investigator Anders is a senior investigator
他是儿童网络犯罪专案小组的成员 with an internet crimes against children task force
现在 这个小组名称是 南弗吉尼亚 that's now called the Southern Virginia
对吗? is that correct?,
南弗吉尼亚专案小组 Southern Virginia Task Force.
特别是作为基督教徒 As Christians especially,
我认为我们都应该关心 I think we should all be concerned with
保护孩子上网 保护他们在网上的安全 protecting children online, on the internet.
因特网是个很棒的工具 The Internet is a wonderful tool
我们非常感激能得到这样的工具 and we're very grateful to have it,
但是我们应该知道如何保护孩子的安全 but we need to know how to keep our children safe.
因此 我要请史蒂夫·安德斯探员 And so I'm going to let Investigator Anders
告诉大家一些ICAC的情况 tell you a little bit about what ICAC is,
我们说的针对儿童的网络犯罪有哪些 which what we refer to internet crimes against children
然后给出建议 and then give you some ideas about how you
让学生 父母 热心的市民 as a student, as a parent, as a concerned citizen
保障儿童在网络上的安全 can keep children safe on the Internet.
首先 史蒂夫 First of all, Steve,
你能告诉我们一些ICAC的情况吗 can you tell us a little bit about what ICAC is?
当然 ICAC指的是 Sure, ICAC stands for the
儿童网络犯罪专案小组项目 Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force program.
这个项目是美国 It a program that was developed by
司法部青少年司法与犯罪预防办公室发起的 the Office of Juvenile Justice Delinquency Prevention.
这个办公室简称是OJJDP We often refer to it as OJJDP,
这个办公室是司法部 which is a branch of the Department of Justice
在联邦政府层面上的分支 at the federal government level.
联邦政府认为非常有必要 The federal government saw the need
成立这些专案小组 for these task forces to be developed,
因为凭借技术 because of the explosion and resurgence
大量的儿童色情作品和儿童性虐待作品 of child pornography and child sexual abuse
的数量剧增 反复出现 through technology.
一旦网络在美国普及 Once the Internet started getting a hold
进入每个家庭 in everyday America and coming into people's homes.
当大众都可以接触到网络时 And when the masses had access to it,
它就成了最新最便捷的媒介 it was the newest easiest medium
方便儿童犯罪者找到他们的受害人 for predators of children to access their victims with.
当然 这很有意义 非常有意义 Sure, that makes sense. That makes sense.
你们的行动小组是在弗吉尼亚 And you task force is here in Virginia,
是吗? is that correct?
是的 女士 Yes, Ma'am.
专案组的领导人是在弗吉尼亚州 The task force is headed by the Bedford county
贝德福德县谢里夫的办公室 Sherriff's office here in Virginia
OJJDP最初的试点项目中有10个专案组 and was one of the original 10 task forces
这是其中之一 that began the pilot program through OJJDP.
当时我们这个组是获得政府津贴 And we were the smallest agency at the time
的规模最小的 to be awarded one of the grants
从那以后 这个项目发展到 and since then the program has grown to
每个州至少有一个专案组 at least one task force in every state.
在包括弗吉尼亚的几个州里 Several states, including Virginia,
有不止一个专案组 have more than one task force,
因为在这些州里 just because of the sheer volume of
儿童色情作品和未成年人性虐待 child pornography and sex abuse
大量发生 toward minors that's occurring here in the states.
我想象不到 这一举动非常好 I can imagine. That's great.
你说这是网上的孩子 You say that that's children on the Internet.
你能告诉我们 Can you give us an idea of
你们是如何工作 how you guys do your work
以及人们采取什么方法 and what types of activities do people
在网上引诱儿童吗? engage in to entice children on the internet.
当然 随着调查的深入 Sure. The two main areas that we focus on
我们主要集中在两个方面 as far as our investigations go
也就是儿童色情作品的 are the distribution and possession
分布和拥有 of child pornography.
我们在工作中称之为 We often will refer to them at work as
儿童性虐待图片 因为真实情况确实如此 images of child sexual abuse because that's what it is.
这些罪犯在某种程度上 These offenders in a way have done us
为我们在执法时提供了便利 in law enforcement a favor
因为他们会记录犯罪现场 by documenting their crime scene.
他们会拍下自己 They are crime scene photos
对孩子施虐过程中 that they have taken of themselves committing
的犯罪现场照片 these abuses against children
通过照片 我们可以找到这些受害人的位置 that we can use to help locate these victims,
确定他们的位置 起诉 identify them, and prosecute those
那些制作儿童色情作品的人 以及那些 that are producing it but also those that are
收集这些作品的人 助长自己幻想 collecting it and might be fueling their fantasies
促进他人越过法律的边界 and pushing other people to cross the line
把想象付诸行动 对可接触到的 to actually act out and offend against live children
儿童犯罪的人 they have access to.
你说过 在过去几年中 And you said there has been an explosion
你看到的图片的数量 in the last few years about the numbers
出现爆炸式的增长 of images that you see.
是这样的 Absolutely.
美国国家失踪与被虐待儿童援助中心 The national Center for Missing and Exploited Children,
是国会设立的信息中心 which is the clearing-house set up by congress
要求所有的儿童网络犯罪专案小组项目 that all the ICAC task forces were required to
把调查中发现的 submit all images of child pornography
全部儿童色情图片 that we find through our investigations
上交到这里 这样 他们可以设法 to them so that they can try to
确定受害人的身份 identify victims and identify victims that
确定在图片中不断出现的受害人的身份 are showing up in recurring series.
有些受害人不止一次地出现 They're being seen more than once.
这个中心报告称 每周 They report to us that they're seeing on average
平均都会看到20 000幅新的 about 20,000 new images every week
从未见到过的图片 that have never been seen before.
除了已经发现的图片 20,000 new images in addition to things
还会新增20 000张图片 that are already out there.
除了那些 In addition to those
已经看到过 被确认的图片 that have already been seen and identified.
真是难以置信 That's unbelievable.
是的 女士 Yes, ma'am.
那么 你工作时的情况如何呢? Well, what are some of the things
能给我们一些建议 that you do in your work and some advice
帮助我们 that you could give us to help us
保护孩子在网上的安全吗? keep children safer on the Internet?
要做的最简单的事情之一 Well, one of the easiest things to do
是和孩子一起上网 is to work with them and
让孩子们知道如何保证在网上的安全 let them know how to be safe online.
和孩子一起上网? With the children?
是的 和孩子一起上网 With the children.
我们碰到的一些问题是 The problems we run into is that
一些家长会做出不由自主的迅速反应 some parents will have a knee-jerk reaction
绝对禁止孩子上网 and absolutely forbid their kids from being online.
这些家长不让孩子有社交网络 They won't let them have a social networking site,
孩子们不能发邮件 根本不能上网 they can't have email, they can't go online at all.
但这阻止不了孩子 But that won't stop the kids.
他们可以在图书馆上网 They have access to it at libraries.
可以在学校上网 They are going to have access to it at school.
而且还可以在 They are going to have access to it
朋友家上网 at a friend's house.
所以 最好是家长教孩子 So it's better that the parents teach the kids
如何负责任地使用网络 how to responsibly use the Internet
同时 和孩子交流 告诉他们 and also communicate with their children
如果孩子遇到这些情况 例如 that if the kids get into a situation
接触影像或者录像机 whether it's being exposed to an image or video,
无论是儿童色情片 whether it's child pornography
或者成人色情片 or even adult pornography,
还是在聊天室中 or if they are in a chat room
或儿童社交网络中 or a child's social networking site
有成年人接近 and they are approached by an adult
并且威胁孩子 who is seeking to prey on them
遇到这些情况 孩子们可以去告诉爸爸妈妈 that they can go tell mom or dad
发生在他们身上的遭遇 what has happened to them
不用担心父母 without feeling that mom and dad
会因为这些而惩罚他们 are going to punish the child for what's happened.
即使这个孩子可能不是无辜的受害者 Even if maybe the child is not as innocent a victim,
或许他们只是好奇 事情做得有些过头了 maybe they were curious and went a little too far
现在 孩子们想摆脱这些 and now they are trying to get out,
但是可能受到罪犯的 that can be manipulated against them
控制 by these offenders,
他们威胁说 如果不来见我 saying you know if you don't meet me,
我就告诉你们的父母 I'm going to tell your mom and dad.
如果你的父母知道你做了什么 他们会怎么想? What will they think about what you've done so far?
因此 父母要让孩子知道 So parents need to let their kids know
他们可以到父母这里 告诉父母任何事 that they can come to them and tell them anything
不必担心会被 without fear that the kid is going to be
锁到房间里 直到80岁才放出来 locked in their room until they are 80 years old
也不用担心不能再去朋友家 and never be able to go to a friend's house again
或者不能上网 or go on the internet.
关键是沟通 So it's the communication that's the key.
是的 关键是沟通 Absolutely. Communication is the key.
有什么特定的区域吗? Are there any particular areas?
你刚才提到一些社交网站 You mentioned some of the social networking sites.
除了这些 孩子们 In addition to that what are the areas that children
最倾向到那些网站去? seem like they are the most prone to enter.
现在 最受欢迎的社交网站 Right now, the number one social networking
脸谱网 site is facebook.
它最近超过聚友成为排名第一的社交网站 It overtook myspace recently.
这个网站非常棒 我有它的账号 It's a great site. I'm on it.
我有很多朋友 家人 同事 I have a lot of friends, family members, coworkers,
但是一定要小心 but you do have to be careful
能让所有人看到的信息 what you make available for anyone to see
以及同意加为好友的人 and who you et be your friend.
现在的孩子想要尽可能多的朋友 Kids today want as many friends as possible.
这关系到他们的地位 所以孩子会加 It's a status thing, so they will just friend anybody
所有想和他们成为朋友的人 that wants to be friends with them.
必须要注意这一点 You have to watch out for that.
但是现在 据我们识别 But there are over 400 social networking sites
有400多个社交网站 that we've already identified
人们可以用来交流 这些网站都有聊天功能 that people communicate with and have chat features.
因此在聊天室中 And so that's where a lot of stuff tends to happen,
会发生很多事情 in the chat rooms.
不幸的是 这不仅仅是 Unfortunately it's not just
原有的美国在线或者雅虎聊天室 the old AOL or Yahoo chat rooms
人们很熟悉这些 that people are familiar with.
如果家里有XBox360游戏机 You can chat through X Box Live
就能聊天 if you have an X Box 360 at home.
如果有PS游戏机 You can chat through Playstation 3
也可以进行聊天 if you have a Playstation at home.
智能手机 很多人都给孩子配置手机 Smart phones, a lot of people have cell phones
这些手机可以连入互联网 for their kids that can access the internet
或者可以发送短信 or even text messaging
没有意识到有很多可以下载的 and aren't aware that there are a lot of applications
应用 社交网络站点 they can download that are social networking apps
会告诉你在几米的范围内 that will tell you within a couple of meters
这个程序的另一个使用者在多远处 how far away another user with that application is.
因此 孩子可能在商场里 So your child could be at the mall
他们的苹果手机或者安卓手机上 with their iPhone or droid,
有这种应用 have this application on it.
同一个商场里 这些罪犯 And then a predator is in the mall
使用同样的应用 with the same application
他们可以通过外形和手机 and they can locate you child based on
确定孩子的位置 their profile and their phone tells them
孩子就在这个方向20或30米以外 that they are 20 or 30 meters down in this direction
他们可以走过去 and they could walk there
发现孩子的身份 and find out who this child is.
这非常残忍 That's atrocious.
不幸的是 我们这些执法人员 Unfortunately, just like we in law enforcement
必须不断保持技术优势 have to constantly stay on the edge of technology
我们必须赶上技术的发展 and we're playing catch up,
因为我们要知道坏人 because we have to learn how the bad guys
如何利用网络犯罪 are exploiting the technology.
家长们也要了解 Parents have to stay up to date with
最新的情况 what's going on as well,
知道孩子们在做什么 and know what their kids are doing.
我认为最好的办法是 I think the best way to do that
和孩子一起坐下来 is to sit down with your child
让孩子教你如何使用网络 and ask the child to teach you how to use the internet.
或许你知道如何设置脸谱网 Maybe you know how to set up facebook,
或许不知道 maybe you don't.
但是如果你让孩子向你展示如何做 But if you let your child show you how to do it one,
一 这就是拉近你和孩子关系的机会 it's bonding time with you and your child
二 你让他们教授 and two, you're letting them teach you
知道的东西 他们在技术方面很有天分 what they know and how tech savvy they are,
你就知道孩子的处境 you have an idea where the kids are at
以及他们的想法 and what they are doing.
然后和其他家长分享这些 And then share that with other parents,
因为孩子会和别人分享 because kids will share everything
自己学到的所有事 they learn with each other.
如果家长们知道什么 If parents learn something though,
他们通常不和其他家长分享 they don't always share it with other parents.
所以消息无法传开 so word doesn't get around
家长们更容易变得无知 and parents tend to be ignorant.
这个主意不错 因此 你认为教育和交流 That's great. So education and communication
是应对的两种最好方法 you would say are the best ways to fight this.
是的 Absolutely.
好的 谢谢你 史蒂夫 Okay, well thank you Steve.
非常感谢你今天花费的时间 I appreciate your time here today
感谢你今天做的事 and appreciate what you do and
以及所有以他探员正在做的 what all the other investigators are out there doing
保护孩子免受这种可怕的事情 trying to protect children against this terrible evil.
谢谢你 Thank you.